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Edited by BORG:
1/17/2015 6:22:46 PM
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PETITION: VoG weapons at 331. Raids shouldn't be rendered irrelevant.
1500+ up votes
3000+ replies
[You guys came up with so many great ideas. I really wish Bungie had a look at the comments here.]
[b]Come on, Bungie, give us the freedom to choose whatever suits our style best and don't let those awesome weapons you've designed become obsolete. Actually, don't let the stunning Vault of Glass (best content in the game) be consumed by the darkness.
I believe that Raids and its weapons should always be the at level cap. More weapons to choose from, more content to play.
Weapons are mostly situational and mixing them is part of a successful strategy (it's fun too). Having more to choose from just add to the game.
Edit: I'm not suggesting to automatically turn them into 331 attack weapons. Just give us a way to upgrade them to the current attack cap. I bet you guys can implement it in a sensible way.
Why would we go against the idea of having more relevant weapons at our disposal? It's like saying "I'd rather have less weapons, less content". Let's not be passively attached to an old format. Destiny is something new with immense potential.[/b]
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Some great comments Bungie should pay some attention to:
AJIc3CoLd said:
"But what they decide to do with VOG weapons speaks to the future of the current raid weapons as well. Right now, there is an expiration date on my Fatebringer and that sucks, supremely, but now that same feeling isn't too far for my Black Hammer either. I'd like to carry these weapons with me as long as I am playing Destiny. Yeah, future weapons maybe better and I end up scraping these guns one day but I'd like to be able to decide for myself versus having no choice in the matter. Just my take on the situation".
JoshLags said:
"The problem lies within the way they have designed the upgrading system. They are going to have to re work how you upgrade weapons and armor. Yeah they could just update the VOC gear up to 32 and 331 but what happens when the House of Wolves comes out? Then they are going to have to update both Dark Below and VOC all over again the prevent them from being obsolete. They need to just make it were the players can choose the path they want to take. You choose what armor and weapons you want to upgrade to the highest rank. I mean make it a difficult task. I wouldn't mind the challenge and it would inspire players to be more creative with their characters rather than every single person wearing the same gear".
DE4THINC4RN4TE said:
"Upgrading older legendary weapons could finally give a use for the Gunsmith beyond buying ammo and weapons at a low level. Not to mention it would help provide a larger variety of "good" weapons so that we would have more things to work towards. After all the various DLC's are done, just imagine how varied the weapon and armor selection would be. (Speaking of which, vendors should be able to upgrade armor as well.)"
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The previous raid weapons are still viable I routinely use my VoC over other 331 alternatives. The best Warlock I know only uses the Fatebringer still. My girlfriend routinely runs content with her Atheon's Epilogue (although she is starting to switch to Eidolon Ally). The weapons are still viable and will continue to be so until around the 370 mark.
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I agree, it would be great to have more weapon/armor choices, and give more variety to our characters, instead of all the people looking the same (i like the VoG warlock helmet much more than the CE one, for example,but the armor/light in the new one makes the VoG quite obsolete). Sorry for my bad english =P
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They do this to kinda force players to buy the DLC. They're doing it wrong too.
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Bungie should keep the max dmg for all weapon to 331 for this dlc and upgrade it to 331+x dmg as the second dlc comes out the difference should be raid weapon perks that should be more relevent and orignial than the basic perk (half ammo dmg or more stability ...)
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I think they should release a level 33 VOG and playing though that will drop 331 weapons and 36 light armour
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331!! Half the endgame is pointless otherwise and the playability of the game diminishes!
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I'm all for this & all the players I've mentioned this to are all in agreement. Raise the VoG difficulty to 32 and have the armour & weapons drop with better values. Give us options to get to lv32 & gives us the options to run different armour sets. At this point VoG loot is redundant.
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Edited by Jarvis T. Smokin: 1/7/2015 10:57:16 AMbungie won't respond to this, as it exposes exactly what they're up to, keeping us grinding, constantly doing bounties to upgrade new weapons that we don't want the xur upgrade process for exotics is a disgrace, take an exotic maxed at 300 that they have declined to upgrade to 324 automatically with the level rise instead, "upgrade" it with xur for 7K glimmer, an exotic shard, and another to fully upgrade it, after grinding bounties to get the xp, and more glimmer to upgrade the weapon, wtf, most people playing from launch are going to burn out from this bounty and glimmer grinding and give up on the game
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This "expansion" spat in the face of every raider who commited to get to 30! Guardians who beat atheon week in week out, some of who (me) only got to 30, due to armour drops (thanks useless RNG!) not long before the DLC dropped, meaning all our hard work and excitement of getting the best weapons and armour was immediately irrelevant as anyone with a few vanguard marks could laugh at your feeble raid gear and weapons! and whatever way you look at it that just NOT RIGHT!
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Amén Bro!
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100% behind this... making old content obsolete is not an 'expansion' in my opinion. All raids should always be the same levels and give the equivalent rewards.
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Disagreed... What would be the point of grinding and raiding for new raid specific weapons if the old ones were still potent. Just move on!
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Edited by FEARme361: 1/7/2015 10:37:00 AMHell yes, I agree...Vog raid weapons should be on par with new vendor weapons.
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If they did that there would be no reason to do new content. You guys just need to move on with all this buff old raid weapons crap. I notice no one is crying about the armor why is that it's the same thing
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I think atheon should drop an item that can be used to upgrade a vog weapon, why not get banshee 44 involved aswell and make it a daily even a weekly cool down. Where he has to reforge it and makes yu do errands or somthing like kill 25 vex majors... Idk
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This needs to happen
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Edited by OperationAudio85: 1/7/2015 10:33:55 AMAppologies if it has been said before but how about VoG orientated bounties. I agree that the weapons and armour should evolve with the lifespan of the game but it would be great for example that the raid offered upgrade materials only found by completeing VoG bounties (Atheon Shard, Aetheon Energy). These upgrade materials would then be used to upgrade VoG weapons and VoG armour. This would mean that new and exisiting players would still be rewarded for playing VoG and Vog maintains it's relevence in the game.
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Let old content die and give us transmog like wow did. What would be the point of doing new content of old content is on par? Why waste time doing new raid when i can just do old content and be the same as everyone else and if they do update vog to 32 everyone will just do that cause it has more chest and loot drops so why do Crota end when you can get gear and enough shards to hit 32 in one run through vog. If they update to drop end game stuff whith new content everyone would be close to or level caped day one of expansion.
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Edited by Chewbocko: 1/7/2015 10:30:49 AMHave you not seen the other VoG raid items that aren't in game? Leads me to believe there might be another difficulty eventually and when we get it the guns hopefully will be raised.
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i still use my 277 found verdict so....
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Signed
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1 ReplyNo. Old raids are old raids, and not for a very long time if ever should they be upgraded to give current Dlc stats. For instance, vog if ever upgraded should not be until the final Dlc for destiny 2, and to be honest that's early. As a reformed wow player this is something I feel very strongly on. Let the content rest, then when others are leveling up they use it as a training ground like we did. Il be very sad to store my vision in my vault, and it will feel weird not to use it any longer, but it's day will come and I'm perfectly ok with that.
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HOW ABOUT ADD SOMETHING TO XUR TO UPGRADE WEAPONS AND ARMOR LIKE WE DO WITH EXOTICS MAKES SENSE
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