I have no excuse, the groups ive cleared the raid with wanted to cheese it so i just went along with it simple as that. If you only do it legit kudos you have the right to brag, everyone will have to learn how to do it legit eventually just like Atheon.
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Even now too few of people can beat atheon.
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haha lol i actually agree with you there everyone that's been chipping away at this game from early days should be able to do hard vault by now i must admit the other night i was doing the normal raid with my little cousin whos a lvl 27 and we were in a group of 6 where i was the only one who had done the vault before it was hard to get them organised i guess this is what it was like the first time i ever went through the vault and someone had to tell me how. I must admit these days so many people want to "cheese crota" that its almost to much effort to try to find a group to do it legit.