originally posted in:Thorny Guardians
What do you all think of these lists? Do you agree? Would you move something? This is just one person's opinion but the lists look good to me.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfGaTJ9lbcA]PvE Tier List[/url] - Click for video
[b]S[/b] - Hawkmoon, Vex Mythoclast, Gjallarhorn, Icebreaker
[b]A+[/b] - Plan C, Thorn, Thunderlord
[b]A[/b] - Suros Regime, Truth, Bad Juju, MIDA Multi-Tool, Patience and Time
[b]B+[/b] - Pocket Infinity, Red Death, Dragon's Breath
[b]B[/b] - Hard Light, Monte Carlo, The Last Word, Invective, Super Good Advice
[b]Below B Tier[/b] - Universal Remote, The 4th Horseman, No Land Beyond
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXGzDwKSGLk]PvP Tier List[/url] - Click for video
[b]S[/b] - Hawkmoon, Suros Regime, Gjallarhorn, Plan C, Truth, Vex Mythoclast, Thorn, The Last Word
[b]A[/b] - Patience and Time, Thunderlord, Invective, MIDA Multi-Tool
[b]B+ [/b]- Red Death, Icebreaker, Pocket Infinity
[b]B[/b] - Universal Remote, Monte Carlo, Hard Light, Dragon's Breath, Bad Juju
[b]Below B Tier[/b] - Super Good Advice, The 4th Horseman, No Land Beyond
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Bad Juju Should be at lease A+ and same goes for red death.
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Woah necro bumped However, someone needs to update this list. Also LOL at Red Death not being top tier pvp, just goes to show how underestimated it was then.. also I believe legendary hcs can be better than Hawkmoon
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Red death 3rd tier?! 2 shot kill are you kidding its a beast
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4th horsemen should not be that low for pvp
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Planet destiny did it better
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Pve: Truth is borderline A+, especially if you're going to put Thunderlord in that group. And Invective definitely deserves to be higher. PvP: Plan C is beast.. But with the ammo changes you run out fast. Good situationally but past that not so much. I'd knock it down to A not S. And Red Death needs to be in S. That one's not even a discussions. Otherwise this isn't a bad hierarchy.
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Old post is old
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I don't really agree with this
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Please don't bump necro posts
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So, I guess i'm the only one that realizes this thread is pre 1.1.1?
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Pvp list is terrible
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Red death should be S for pvp and bad juju should be A+
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Edited by AxCel91: 2/18/2015 6:44:47 PMPvp list is terrible. Pocket should be S. Icebreaker should be in Z tier. No one uses Ghorn in pvp. And who TF uses the vex in Pve? That's scrub-city. Edit: let me be clear to all the literals. When I said no one uses Ghorn in pvp. It's exaggerated on purpose to prove a point. Of course people use it. But the community consensus is Truth > Ghorn in pvp. And everyone should have Truth by now as Xur has sold it a million times(see how that works.)
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Edited by G Force16202: 4/23/2015 8:17:40 PMMIDA was my first exotic and in PvE I think it is an amazing weapon, once you upgrade it to hair-trigger (MIDA Multi-Tool upgrade) you can almost use it like an OP auto rifle (almost). So I think in PvE and PvP it should be A+
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Im not sure why mida is as high it is on the pve tier list
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Multi tool deserves to be s class for pvp.. There I said it lol.
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I don't have Fourth Horseman but I'd say it needs a reconsider after what they've done to it xD
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I don't really Play PvP, so I'm not gonna bother with that list, but I would change his list around a bit. Probably the biggest change I'd make is I'd move Truth to Below B Tier, as Truth is no better than a legendary rocket launcher with tracking in PvE. If you need advanced tracking to hit that giant boss that walks back and forth at the end of the stage, you are a new type of pathetic. PvE Tier List - Click for video S - Hawkmoon, Vex Mythoclast, Gjallarhorn, Icebreaker A+ -Thunderlord, Suros Regime, Bad Juju, MIDA Multi-Tool, A - Red Death, Thorn, Invective, B+ - Pocket Infinity, Plan C, Patience and Time B - Hard Light, Monte Carlo, The Last Word, Below B Tier - Universal Remote, The 4th Horseman, No Land Beyond, Dragon's Breath, Truth, Super Good Advice
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Thunderlord gets anod over gally in pvp. Stable and 3 headshots to kill someone.
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Edited by corgi: 3/6/2015 12:00:56 AMI wouldn't give Gjallarhorn S in PvP, considering it's just pretty much a basic tracking rocket with advanced cluster bombs. It still only holds 2 rockets per "magazine." I've honestly never even seen someone die to the Wolfpack rounds if they survived the initial blast. What makes Truth so godly in PvP is the 3 round "mag," the advanced tracking [i]and[/i] it's proximity. You can shoot people around corners with it.
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I think Bad Juju should get up to B+ because of the new damage buff in PvP which makes them absolutely amazing since they have full auto mode.
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More or less agree. Though I think thorn needs to be in S tier for pve and hardlight in B+ tier for pvp.
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Edited by your f(r)iend: 2/18/2015 9:14:13 PMUniversal remote should be higher on the list gallarhorn and tlw are only A+ in crucible
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Edited by .: 2/18/2015 9:04:46 PMI more or less just used your list to see which exotic guns I'm missing. I'm only missing the PS exclusives ;) thanks
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Ummm. You can't really make theses coz its 50% based off opinion. Sooo...
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>_> why is this still up, at least edit it for accurate usefulness in crucible Any decent pvp player can tell u there are things out of place on this list. Mida is nowhere below a suros or vex, same with the pocket infinity