Killing him legit is easy as long as everyone plays their part, I've killed him in 3 swords almost 2 and it took like 5-6 min or whatever but the problem is people don't listen want to do shit their own way and then get frustrated cause they can't do it...so they cheese prime example is the one guy on the Knights that then decides not to be looking at them and I get killed as I'm slashing away, they continue to do this and then blame everybody else and rage quit. Point is the hardest part is finding a group of people that can think strategically at all. The sad thing is if you do this entire raid properly it's really fun and requires good coordination but it's all good cause the pretenders will be separated from the rest when hard mode comes out and you can't cheese