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We paid for this game, sure a lot of people hate cheesing however the fact is Cheesing wouldnt exist IF there was no way to cheese. Bungie created ways to Cheese, I would of been happy to wait longer for the game if it meant exploits and bugs removed however they released it with these possible cheeses so I dont believe those who exploit the game should be banned, those who create the exploit, even by mistake, should be blammed. Thats like hiding cookies from a 5 year old by placing it next to them and not expecting the 5 year old to eat the cookie, its the fault of the person who chose that hiding spot. So leave cheesers alone, and yes I've Cheesed before (templar) I dont have time to be wiping for 5hrs for 3 Energies. Now stfu and quit being salty, let everyone play the game as they wish THEY PAID FOR THEIR [b]OWN[/b] COPY
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  • I did cheese certain parts on the VOG, but when the patched all those glitches, my team and I still wrecked the place and beat it all the time.

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  • If people get banned for breaking a user agreement, good luck playing their [b]own[/b] copy of the game without Bungie's servers. I could care less, I don't and won't play with lazy people, and I run with people that do it legit. You don't own the game, you have just purchased a ticket to get on Bungie's game.

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  • And Bungie's game allows us to do such "short cuts" its all due to their incompetence. No where (unless yourr willing to state it to me) in the user agreent says using elements of the game to complete tasks/ missions is not allowed. It's only a violation if the user modify's the game because then you're changing something that is not yours however cheesers don't modify, they use what is supplied.

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  • Also Bungie has also been known to ban people for network manipulation in the past. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-02-bungie-bans-15-000-halo-reach-cheaters

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  • Lel did you even read? The got all their credits removed and had a one day ban on earning credits.

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  • Did you read what I typed and what you typed and what was in the article. I never specified type of ban and you used the word ban as well. I just used the word ban and posted the article so I didn't have to type everything it said.

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  • Banning people for their incompetence lool. Its their choice Im just saying they -blam!-ed up and thats why cheesers exist.

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  • This is not a cheese that's using the design of the game. It's a cheat intentionally manipulating an Internet connection. If somebody gets booted for firefly that has an error report just the same as somebody stopping their connection to jump back on to get loot would give them a different error report. I'm sure they also keep logs of every crota kill and it would be easy for them to filter those logs for having network manipulations seperate from the true disconnects. Who knows. Like I said I really don't care how people play but it's blatantly cheating, and there is no way you can justify it. People aren't using programs but they are doing what a program can do manually by flipping a switch or unplugging and plugging in a cable. I'm sure it will be fixed and there may be no repercussions. All they have to do is delete the loot that was looted on the cheated runs though. I'm a full supporter of cheesing but disconnect glitches are not cheese. This is cheating. I don't play with people that use this cheat, so again it doesn't affect me. In two weeks only 750-800 teams beat Crota. Since the cheat was introduced to the community over 100k completions have been done. It shouldn't even be over 2000 a week later without cheating.

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  • The cheat is manipulating a connection to their network to cause the glitch. It is not part of the game design. You aren't fighting anything in the game at that point. You are fighting the plug boss, but getting stuff as if you fought Crota.

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  • But then thats a fault in the game. Because one can very well just say that they disconnected during that exact moment or even the notorious "firefly" error code, which would then make it even more of Bungie's fault. Either way if there was no exploit then cheese wouldnt exist. No one hacked or modified the game to cause this exploit, Bungie released the gaming WITH this exploit AVAILABLE.

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  • You're the salty one, bud. Always love reading posts where people rationalize their cheating. Fools.

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  • :D Lool "rationalise their cheating" ^^ you sound like one of them ignorant -blam!- that believe they're MLG lool I wont sit here and argue with you unless you can justify anything Ive said as being false (sadly you cannot because it's all true :)) Merry Christmas Buddy.

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