What group do you have? I always try it legit.... NOT A SINGLE GROUP HAS KILLED HIM IN 2 WEEKS MULTIPLE GROUPS A day... I've never killed crota because of it and I had all 31s a few times and didn't even get a miniscule of health down.. Oh and the cheese? One group tried it for 4 hours and failed the cheese every time according to what they told me... The closest I got was him at half health.. Then 3 ppl lagged out because the servers suck..