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Edited by GouldBerg988: 1/9/2015 9:22:02 AM
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Do Crota-Kneelists deserve to get banned?

Yes, they clearly violated the Terms-of-Service

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No, because Reasons

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So [url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85926505/0/0]this [/url]Thread clearly explains why the Networkglitch is in a whole other class than all the glitches/cheesing that did go on in the vault: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85926505/0/0 FYI: [b]At least three persons already got banned[/b] Edit:Bungie updates stats on Crotacompletes https://twitter.com/bungie/status/546107092885446656 Inb4 Banhammer EDIT: [b]For all the Naysayers that say Bungie/sony couldn`t possibly distinguish between a random and a deliberate DC.[/b] 1.Lets just assume that there is a time-window of 5 seconds around the point where Crota kneels down to dc on purpose and use the glitch. 2.Let`s further assume that on average the ServiceProviers are reachable for 90% of the time (It`s actually more like 98%, but we will be very generous) 3.Since Crota has been “beaten” more than 160.000 times and a Raidteam consists of 6 people we will say: There are at least 1 Million chances to draw a disconnect during 2 hours (an average Raid takes this time). If we take the 10% from above we can say: 100,000 disconnects happened during all successful Crotaraids up to this point. So what is the probability that A DC happens randomly at the exact same time Crota goes down? Calculation: 2*3600/5 = 1440:= potential 5 second-time units of one single player during a successful raid 1,440,000,000= for all players Ergo The probability that a DC happens randomly at the moment where crota goes down for any Player is 100,000/1,440,000,000 = 6,94e -5 And for the special case that this DC concerns the Host: 1,16e -5 For comparison: The Probability of getting a Royal Flush in Poker: 2,57 e-5 Another Hopebubble busted by Math, sorry for that EDIT 2: I will also link to a prominent youtuber (Datto) that has the same opinion as the vocal group of "[b]It`s a cheat not a chesse[/b]" on this forum. Since he works closely with bungie you can be sure that in one way or the other Glitchers will soon befall a special "Destiny": [b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O30249lCy1c&t=4m47s[/b] EDIT 3: This is how a big banwave looked in Halo:Reach (2010) courtesy of Bungie [quote]Good evening, We are in the process of applying credit resets to approximately 15,000 users who we have identified as the most egregious Challenge Reset abusers. A one day credit earning ban has also been applied, mostly to ensure that recipients receive an in-game notification of the action taken. As with any such measure, we have taken the time to carefully select our criteria to eliminate false positives. A more comprehensive pass will be occurring in the coming week as our automated Banhammer mechanisms grow accurate enough to satisfy our high bar for burden of proof. If you are thinking about getting an easy 50k credits by using this exploit, I would strongly advise you to reconsider. Thank you, and please direct any discussion of these resets to this thread. Edit 1: a point of clarification. No bans were handed out tonight for a) Playing too much Gruntpocalypse (no such thing!) b) Using the target locator too much (no such thing!) Specifically, we targeted an exploit that allowed players to complete a Challenge 20+ times via intentional network manipulation (i.e., disconnects.) Spot checks have revealed the telltale signature of this behavior on every denier so far, so don't be fooled by the protests of innocence. We aren't. Edit 2: 1) If you have lost your Legendary Helmet or any other downloadable offers, you can re-download them via your Download History. We're not sure this is affecting anyone (we haven't reproduced it internally), but just in case it is, give this a try. 2) We won't be resetting Commendations, as we do not feel that the exploit used affected them. It would not be fair to people who did use the exploit but who wish to retain the record of their playstyle, and we cannot differentiate between the two systematically. Sorry. --- Cheaters, be wary of the Credit Reset! [/quote] [url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/15026193/0/0/1]Source[/url] [b]EDIT 4: Cheaters have officially gotten a Carte Blanche from a Studio that is a shadow of its former self Bungie does not kick ass any more. I was a fool and the cheaters have taken over. I will now make a thread to suggest to ban anyone in the future that tries to make a thread about banning someone. Bungie clearly voted for the quick buck. I hope they will live happily ever after with you and your kind. Signing out ;-)[/b]

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    Kills jumped from 750 some odd kills the other week....to over 100,000......

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    • Edited by iAmGod: 12/29/2014 3:03:24 PM
      Sorry but you fail, that is not an update on crotas completes but that update was on the numbers they released about the number of people playing the game. This is backed by when they made the number claim and the day that tweet was released which was dec. 19.

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      • A ban? I think that's a bit harsh. Maybe a slap on the wrist or a warning but not a ban.

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      • 1. Grow the f up 2. Quit playing if your butt hurt about it 3. Why not actually complain about real issues on the game 4. These trolls are getting old!

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      • 1. If you don't want to [i]"cheese"[/i] Crota, don't. 2. If you don't want to play with [i]"cheesers"[/i], don't. 3. If you are offended by people who have [i]"cheesed"[/i] Crota, get a life. Exploiting defects to achieve reward is human nature. Instant gratification is human nature. The bottom line is this, those who [i]"cheese"[/i] Crota still have to kill him legitimately with the sword, therefore needing to kill the swordbearer, by LEGITIMATELY playing. The [i]"cheese"[/i] method still requires teamwork, appropriate leveled players, coordination, risk, effort and strategy, at times even more effort and stragegy than doing it the non-[i]"cheese"[/i] way. This technique doesn't violate any agreement because it is not an external code or modification; It's merely a coincidence. If you could still push the Templar/Atheon, you probably would, if you could still pick who got teleprompter during Atheon, would you?

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        • Edited by N1GHT CR4WLER: 12/29/2014 1:30:44 PM
          Nope as the saying goes - Work Smarter Not Harder And ive paid my money for this game so il do as i please with it i dont see all the hype about who does what and whos proper and whos not and the end of the day its a game ment for enjoyment i couldnt care how others are playing it as long as im enjoying playing In my eyes ban the modded consol's ( cheaters ) and people who glitch into areas there not ment to be in END . Edit - They wont ban cheeser's are we are part of the build process they keep an eye on what we are doing take notes and sort patches to help build a better gaming experience its called trial by error no game company has made a 100% perfectly coded game ( not this size game anyway ) We are a tool for them to use to get better and il put money on it when CE hardmode comes it will come with a sizable patch to wipe out the bits we have been cheesing

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        • Say goodbye to most of destiny players then

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          • Its cheating. Your purposefully breaking the game. Pullin a cord from your -blam!-in machine isnt a strategy. Its cheating. I say let the ban hammers swing hard and true.

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            • We beat Crota in minutes the rt way... ive seen guys spend hours trying to glitch him. Just wait till its fixed. We all know how Bungie over kills a fix. We will all have shields and empty weapons no use of ammo synth. pumpkin heads on backwords Vex lolly pops shoved up our butts. and the sword will have the weight of the Mars that requires 3 guardians standing on each others head to kill him. Oh get ready its comming

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            • It's only on Xbox so idk how I feel about it

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              • I havent cheesed crota but I so understand the process and really bungie should be glad for cheesers they see where they over looked in something and have the opportunity to fix it. for example; the templar getting drunk with a lot of solarnade and falling off the back of the stage. Or with atheon idk how atheon got pushed off. they saw this was happening and they fixed it by the time the reset rolled around. Just hold on to your lil ponies and allow them time to fix it instead of complaining and nagging about something they probably have seen and are fixing.

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              • It needs to be patch asap.

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              • Ban people for an incomplete game that there's a loophole in .... Right......

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                • The 56% are probably all cheesers

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                • Here is the thing. Yes I want cheesers to be banned BUT if they do ban cheesers they will have to ban more than half of all destiny players. Therefore Bungie just needs to patch this glitch.

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                • If they ban anyone they are screwing themselves over, there goes all their money and possible buyers for Destiny 2

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                • I beat him legit once a week. The next two times I beat him, it's however the people I'm with want to do it. I don't see a problem cheesing him. Especially in the last few days where service was so bad, we accidentally cheesed him once. It was actually pretty funny. We were going for legit, and the game host got kicked. Sigh.

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                • http://i.imgur.com/ogQarGg.png

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                • Edited by Capiton Render: 12/29/2014 1:06:31 PM
                  Are you retarded? Yes yes you are. I have a feeling anyone that cares about it, either cant beat crota legit, and on top of that, cant get the glitch to work.

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                  • Does you know that you should have used "do"?

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                  • No one should be banned for cheesing. It isn't our fault that it's in the game. We aren't the ones who put it in the game. Therefore we should be allowed to work smarter until it is fixed.

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                    • I only care cause people who cheese are usually pretty bad.... Since your bad you don't deserve to be on my level. Lol Damn look at my arrogance. Really though they shouldn't get banned but I want them to know there inferior players. I was hoping for there to be a hard mode swag raid set.. Unfortunately there isn't so good players and bad will all look the same at 32.

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                      • Do*

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                      • I don`t care, but feel the need to participate...

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                        • Reading this like....

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