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Do Crota-Kneelists deserve to get banned?

Yes, they clearly violated the Terms-of-Service

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No, because Reasons

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I don`t care, but feel the need to participate

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So [url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85926505/0/0]this [/url]Thread clearly explains why the Networkglitch is in a whole other class than all the glitches/cheesing that did go on in the vault: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85926505/0/0 FYI: [b]At least three persons already got banned[/b] Edit:Bungie updates stats on Crotacompletes https://twitter.com/bungie/status/546107092885446656 Inb4 Banhammer EDIT: [b]For all the Naysayers that say Bungie/sony couldn`t possibly distinguish between a random and a deliberate DC.[/b] 1.Lets just assume that there is a time-window of 5 seconds around the point where Crota kneels down to dc on purpose and use the glitch. 2.Let`s further assume that on average the ServiceProviers are reachable for 90% of the time (It`s actually more like 98%, but we will be very generous) 3.Since Crota has been “beaten” more than 160.000 times and a Raidteam consists of 6 people we will say: There are at least 1 Million chances to draw a disconnect during 2 hours (an average Raid takes this time). If we take the 10% from above we can say: 100,000 disconnects happened during all successful Crotaraids up to this point. So what is the probability that A DC happens randomly at the exact same time Crota goes down? Calculation: 2*3600/5 = 1440:= potential 5 second-time units of one single player during a successful raid 1,440,000,000= for all players Ergo The probability that a DC happens randomly at the moment where crota goes down for any Player is 100,000/1,440,000,000 = 6,94e -5 And for the special case that this DC concerns the Host: 1,16e -5 For comparison: The Probability of getting a Royal Flush in Poker: 2,57 e-5 Another Hopebubble busted by Math, sorry for that EDIT 2: I will also link to a prominent youtuber (Datto) that has the same opinion as the vocal group of "[b]It`s a cheat not a chesse[/b]" on this forum. Since he works closely with bungie you can be sure that in one way or the other Glitchers will soon befall a special "Destiny": [b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O30249lCy1c&t=4m47s[/b] EDIT 3: This is how a big banwave looked in Halo:Reach (2010) courtesy of Bungie [quote]Good evening, We are in the process of applying credit resets to approximately 15,000 users who we have identified as the most egregious Challenge Reset abusers. A one day credit earning ban has also been applied, mostly to ensure that recipients receive an in-game notification of the action taken. As with any such measure, we have taken the time to carefully select our criteria to eliminate false positives. A more comprehensive pass will be occurring in the coming week as our automated Banhammer mechanisms grow accurate enough to satisfy our high bar for burden of proof. If you are thinking about getting an easy 50k credits by using this exploit, I would strongly advise you to reconsider. Thank you, and please direct any discussion of these resets to this thread. Edit 1: a point of clarification. No bans were handed out tonight for a) Playing too much Gruntpocalypse (no such thing!) b) Using the target locator too much (no such thing!) Specifically, we targeted an exploit that allowed players to complete a Challenge 20+ times via intentional network manipulation (i.e., disconnects.) Spot checks have revealed the telltale signature of this behavior on every denier so far, so don't be fooled by the protests of innocence. We aren't. Edit 2: 1) If you have lost your Legendary Helmet or any other downloadable offers, you can re-download them via your Download History. We're not sure this is affecting anyone (we haven't reproduced it internally), but just in case it is, give this a try. 2) We won't be resetting Commendations, as we do not feel that the exploit used affected them. It would not be fair to people who did use the exploit but who wish to retain the record of their playstyle, and we cannot differentiate between the two systematically. Sorry. --- Cheaters, be wary of the Credit Reset! [/quote] [url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/15026193/0/0/1]Source[/url] [b]EDIT 4: Cheaters have officially gotten a Carte Blanche from a Studio that is a shadow of its former self Bungie does not kick ass any more. I was a fool and the cheaters have taken over. I will now make a thread to suggest to ban anyone in the future that tries to make a thread about banning someone. Bungie clearly voted for the quick buck. I hope they will live happily ever after with you and your kind. Signing out ;-)[/b]

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  • I still haven't been banned yet.... *looks at watch* ....my Hunger of Crota is a fun weapon though.

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  • You lost me at "so this thread"

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  • what is this is, i don't even

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  • Better idea. The ppl who bitch and moan stop playing destiny and leave the rest of us to do what we want. Ive beat crota legit. And cheesed. In all honesty who da fu kk cares dude How does it affect you personally Get prepared for hard mode and mind ya bussiness

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  • If bungie wants to fix it they can. I don't have the dlc because I think bungie kinda sucks right now, but is it not the same thing as Templar? Knock off the Templar through grenades and no one even dies. Crota kneels down and oversoul kills him. Same thing. Bungie just needs to fix it not ban people for their own screw ups for not actually testing anything before they release it.

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    • I just believe that people who do it are little bitches who clearly don't have the skill to complete it legitimately. Kind of sad really.

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    • I just believe that people who do it are little bitches who clearly don't have the skill to complete it legitimately. Kind of sad really.

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    • I dont think they should be banned because most people doing it dont realize it is a cheat and think of it like pushing atheon. If you did want to punish them just take the gear they earned back

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    • Edited by tomatoporcupine: 12/29/2014 6:10:32 PM
      No one should be banned for this. If you release a half baked game and expect the public to work out the "bugs" in the game , you cant turn around and punish them for discovering and utilizing the bugs and glitches.

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    • Here's my opinion, since you all asked. Call it a cheat if you want, but it is definitely a glitch. Why? Because I guarantee you the first team this happened to found it by accident when their fireteam leader got jackrabbited or vipered into space. If it can happen involuntarily, then it is a glitch. Everyone is exploiting that glitch. Maybe this one is more serious than pushing aetheon off the ledge, but the outcome is the same. Bungie makes a "boss" with silly vulnerabilities and does not thoroughly test their product. Sorry, but this is 100% on bungie. That being said, I've never glitched him since my ft is pretty solid. He is not difficult as is. But I don't hate on the cheesers.

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      • No, because the players should not be punished for the developers errors.

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        • Edited by winteridyll: 12/29/2014 6:05:57 PM
          No because there is nothing that days i cant quit my game. Maybe i needed to take a shit.

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        • Mabey Crota should be banned for not taking damage still shooting on one knee or getting his shield back even when he has multiple DOTs on him

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          • I've done the raid legit many times but now it's hard to find a group that doesn't want to cheese him. So it's either play till crota then leave to try and get a llegit group or just afk and let them do it, I mean, I know it's more then likely a bannable offence but would I be in as much trouble as the guy who's doing the network error. That's the real question.

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          • Another crybaby thread. Someone beat the raid in a way different or easier than you and you cry. Get over yourself

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          • Banning people for this will be like banning people for cheesing Atheon. The manpower should be focused on patching the issue as quickly as possible, instead of finding people to ban. Considering how rampant the cheesing is, banning the people would create more problems than solutions.

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            • Biased poll. Anyway with RNG so bad for so many people I don't care. In fact I enjoy it as it feels like sticking it to them for such a bad system. I'll do it 3x a week every week and Prob still get screwed. But can you tell me why I should waste my time "being legit" when the game is such a time suck already & RNG is so bad only to get nothing or the ship again? Yeah didn't think so.

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            • Cheesing is working within the game's system. Cheating is breaking the game. Don't ban everyone just because they did it, but consider giving short term bans to crota-kneelists, just to stop people from doing it. What's even the big deal with making him kneel, anyways? The raid is a lot easier to do legit in the first place.

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              • Please ban me...gives me a reason to finally quit this game lol. I can finally finish Dragon Age!!!! At this point, I just keep coming back...buying DLCs and grinding over and over. Please BAN me so I'd stop playing/paying destiny/Bungie forever...lol.

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              • Edited by DQ-9: 12/29/2014 4:58:47 PM
                Couldn't care less They wanna BAN me so be it , gladly there's other games that are out there with creativity and better way to represent the games story So hey at least I saved 26 dollar for another game rather than another dlc on a game that's based on RNG and a guy who likes to mess with us with XUR Btw: can't you enjoy life and think about yourself other than thinking about others ? Since your so attached to this game I really wish from the bottom of my heart that RNG screws you :D

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              • Instead of banning how bout they just fix the glitch?

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                • I think Bungie should just make it so that if Crota is kneeling for more than 30 consecutive seconds, either: A) An invincible oversoul spawns and kills everyone B) Crota will die by default, and all players are rewarded with two radiant shards/two radiant energies.

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                • Whiney kids like you kinda ruined this game for me definitely this forum. Whah he's not playing the game like my self righteous cry baby ass.

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                • My fireteam has never chessed crota as it only takes about an hour to complete legit. I don't think they should be banned, as it is bungie responsibility to test for bugs. Do I think it's cheap... yes very.

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                • Whoa a whole three people? Aw shit. No, no bans. This doesn't effect anything at all. People getting great faster has no impact on anyone else other than emotionally. Mathis is something that can be patched and will be. If you ban all the people that did this, it would probably be around the majority of Crota kills which is a lot of people. Not in Bungies best interest. Fix it and move on.

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                • I've met ALOT of people in this game. What can I tell you? Every single one of them, if it be bounty glitch, templar glitch, Atheon glitch, bridge glitch, Crota glitch, loot cave, or whatever of the other countless glitches, have done at least one of them in their time. Id bet money on it that OP has done one of these things in their time. If Bungie was faster at fixing these things, then maybe there'd be a point. They've clearly displayed that they don't care about glitches, as they leave them around for months on end without patching them. So TLDR Shut up Meg.

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