I think it depends on what class you started with. I'm a decent player with my hunter because that's what I started with. If I'm taking the game seriously, I'll put up 5000 pts with this class. When I play with my Titan, I never really go above 2.5 k/d and rarely surpass 3000 pts when going try hard. I have friends who rock a Titan really well in the crucible though so I think it just depends on your play style. *pts in control*