one for grinding ... ELITE..on C64 ...sitting in a small room with an old colour tv all smelling ozon...wainting in real time to reach a planet with good cargo u really need for new spaceships cannon and wre working for it since hours ...getting bored after an hour looking on black screen with minimal vector grapics....go out playing while fingers crossed that ship won't be destroyed from pirates...coming back 2h later to see 95% done..great...leave room for sweets...back 5min later..."you have been destroyed by pirate" "§$%&/()=)(/&%$....anybody complaining about Destiny grinding? try to get you hands on that old stuff and suffer