Handcannons are my weapon of choice. Watching enemy heads pop never gets tired. The current crop, however, all look pretty rubbish on paper and I can't bring myself to spend the marks on them. Going by various reports on the forum this is probably a wise move. Are they really as crappy as they look? Were they deemed too good pre dlc and intentionally gimped? What's going on Bungie?!
//just to clarify - by current I mean the new, post dlc handcannons
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I happen to love my Polite Denial (yes its not a bloody purple but Explosive rounds make me smile every time I Pop off a round at some target)
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You can't really get any better then the Fatebringer
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Yeah I will miss TDYK I never got Fatebringer. Can not wait for hawk moon to drop, but the new thorn is very satisfactory.
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Some of the rare hand cannons that drop are pretty good :p just too lazy to upgrade them
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You must not own hawkmoon or fatebringer.
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The red hand is still really good. GL finding one.
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Edited by PapaCap: 12/19/2014 10:46:50 AMHandcannons are fluff weapons, not viable in Raids/Nightfall. It's like your commute vehicle you take to work all week, with it's automatic transmission. Then on the weekends you break out the stick for cruising up the coastline. Edit: I still don't believe Handcannons have the required sustainable DPS to outperform rifles in Raid situations. My 324 Thorn severely underperforms on the Crota fight in all aspects, compared to my 300 Vision of Confluence. If this game had a damage meter rather than just a kill counter then this matter would be easy to settle, but it doesn't so unless you can show me some proof then I'm afraid I can't give into the hype.
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I was excited to see what they would be but when I got The devil you don't in a drop I put it in my vault immediately. I got a RARE hand cannon that does 294 and has better stats and ammo capacity
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The handcannon of the vanguard sucks. It has horrible perks. I got lucky and the vanguard gave me The Devil You Don't with the Luck in the chamber perk and Field Scout perk, so I'm happy with that. Expect to rank up vanguard and it will give you legendary weapons with better perks.
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Are you -blam!-ing kidding me? Handcannons are super powerful. They kill people in pvp with 3 -blam!-ing shots. The auto rifles are the ones that need a buff
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Yeah even the new raid weapons are meh. I guess bungie is afraid now of making anything good. Pvp balance strikes again.
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It seems Bungie made the hand cannons available from vendors pretty lackluster. Either they have low magazine sizes or the range sucks. Oddly enough, I got the New Monarchy HC Red Hand IX from legendary engram and its a beast! 10 shots. Send It upgrade. Sweet weapon. Downside is you have to hope to get it as a drop.
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Hand cannons were originally going to be secondary weapons which makes much more sense
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They look like they suck bad
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Timurz lash is really strong it can 2 shot people in Iron banner
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Edited by MAD X H0USE: 12/16/2014 1:15:17 PMTFWPKY 1969 is similar to The Devil You Know as far as RoF/Impact, and the vendor version is basically perk'd for a bottomless magazine. Worth a consideration at least. I know I'm looking at getting it. The Devil You Don't isn't worth buying, but an RNG version with some perks like Outlaw, Reactive Reload, Extended Mag, etc. could have some potential. I have one with Rangefinder, Send it, and Crowd Control. It performs decently with the range boost, but damage output is crippled by the 5-round mag.
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FWC's The Chance: fast reload when empty, and field scout 13 rounds. It's my workhorse... Tho the Fatebringer still out performs everything, including exotics...
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I've got my eye on "The Chance" from FWC it looks like a pretty good hand cannon, I just wish it had explosive rounds.
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Fatebringer is by far my favorite gun and i have almost all exotic primary rifles...
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I rolled a pretty good red hand from a new monarchy package and it easily replaced my old one. That being said ARs and Scouts rule pve
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Your stupid, the hand cannon are op and need a nerf again. I kept getting killed by 2 shots non stop.
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Your talking about the new Vanguard and Crucible Cannons, right? Yeah, the ones in stock now are not good, but only because the Perks are terrible. Wait for TFWPKY with the Perfect balance perk. That is what I want.
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I would love to see a magazine loaded pistol. All this time in to the future they somehow forgot how to make those. I mean slight hit on damage but increase to control , reload speed and rate of fire. If they could balance that weapon out would be nice.
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They had to be nerfed to compete with raid matchmaking.
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Basically yes they suck.
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Use the fatebringer its amazing and I use it all the time I have no idea what you are saying "fluff" weapon for it wrecks groups of enemies