Man come on. I honestly don't care if they fix the cheeses, it's just a time convenience to use them, but my group is more than capable to doing it straight up again. I agree there shouldn't be any easy cheese ways, but at least have the common goddamn decency to include legitimate raid issues with this as well as the cheeses. Otherwise it just makes you look like a little shit that is telling other people how to play the game. If Bungie addresses these before they address the real problems, it'll become a joke just like VoG did.