[b]Reflections of a Cheesed off Guardian[/b]
We were told they were listening. We thought they would learn from their mistakes. The DLC has shown us that Bungie are not listening and didn't learn from their mistakes.
The ‘story’ missions took about an hour to complete. That’s peanuts! They were set for the most part in the same old places and we found ourselves fighting the same old enemies. This 'expansion' feels more like an 'event'.
[b]Chill out! What's the problem?[/b]
This game lacks content, variety, and volume. It feels empty. Don’t get me wrong, [i]the shooting and graphics are awesome[/i]. But the lack of content and variety within this game make the grind unbearable. I enjoy RPGs. I don’t mind the grind (provided there is plenty of content), but in Destiny, the grind is a miserably, depressing joke. Not even Crota's scrota finds it funny.
It is a hollow of a game. No wonder players began by shooting into a hole. It has the potential to be awesome but fails to deliver with the story and the variety of content. The grind would be almost bearable if they had given us 6 new PvP maps, 5 new strikes, 10 new story missions.
Instead, they gave us rehashed missions in places we've already played with the odd additional space and minimal story telling.
[b]A Box of Chocolates[/b]
If I buy a box of the finest chocolates, I expect the box to be full with delicious chocolate treats. When I get half a box of mouldy chocolate pieces, I'm not happy and throw a hissy fit. When I buy a video game that promises so much but gives so little, I feel cheated of my money. Bungie, where's my [i]chocolate[/i]?
[b]Positives [/b]
Okay, so perhaps I'm being a bit negative. It is not all doom and gloom. Over the past few months Bungie have added a lot of the ideas promoted by players and game reviews. The new missions, though brief and largely in the same old places, were fun to play. Killing Urzok the Hated with three other random Guardians was a barrel of laughs. And the last part of the Urn of Sacrifice quest was epic. I was hoping for more playable content to make the grind more enjoyable.
[b]Objections and Answers[/b]
[b]Objection 1:[/b] ‘Stop crying and play another game’. Answer: Look, I do love this game. The shooting and graphics are awesome. I just feel the game has failed us in so many ways with regard to story, variety and volume of content. It has so much [i]potential[/i] but feels so [i]empty[/i]. Also ... I have a right to voice my opinion. Google 'freedom of speech'. If you don't agree with what I say, don't just tell me to zip it, give me [i]reasons [/i]why you think I'm wrong.
[b]Objection 2:[/b] 'You guys complain about not enough [i]new[/i] content, but then you don't want to do the [i]new[/i] content when provided'. Answer: The content provided is the same old grind, killing the same old enemies, in the same old places ... sure great [i]new[/i] content. #DoubleSpeak
[b]Objection 3:[/b] 'I thought we got a fair bit of DLC for our money' (yes, people are seriously saying this). Answer: Compare the Destiny expansion with the expansions of Skyrim and Oblivion (they were huge!). Destiny has fallen short of the standard set by last gen games. Don't get me wrong, the game is good. The shooting is engaging and the graphics are beautiful. I simply expect more content to ease the monotony of the grind and make it more interesting and enjoyable. I don't get why people are opposed to the idea of more playable content. It is weird.
[b]Objection 4:[/b] ‘Quit whining and hating on Destiny’. Answer: In fact, I love this game. I want to see it get better and realise its potential. Surely you want the same?
[b]Objection 5:[/b] ‘Don’t comment till you've done the raid’. Answer: That is another can of worms. A social based game like Destiny should include within itself the in-game mechanics to encourage social activity. Where is the in-game LFG forum for making teams to do the raid? Seems like a glaring omission to me. Even so, why can’t I comment on the story missions and the strike when I've played them?
[b]Objection 6:[/b] 'It is more DLC than what CoD usually offers'. Answer: The problem is FPS CoD players don't see how empty this expansion is compared with what MMO and RPG players have come to expect from expansions. Destiny is a strange hybrid ... a jack of all trades ... Given the MMO/RPG aspects, I thought the expansion would substantially add to the game's playable content to make the grind more enjoyable. I think that this was a fair expectation.
[b]LIKE[/b] and [b]BUMP[/b] if you agree.
[b]Thanks for all the support! Cheers Guardians![/b]
[b]600+ likes and a load of bumps!! [/b]
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This is true .... "They said they wanted more so that's what we them " lol what a joke ... Seriously? Have they never played fallout? Or skyrim ? Those "dlc" were frwKing huge ! With new massive space and gray story telling ..... Bungie this just isn't your strong type of game development
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I'm just a little disappointed that my ghost was quite the whole time and there were no cs to speak of (not including trailers)
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Yep bump this needs to be addressed soon or people gonna flip tables
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Completely agree! Honestly this game blows, and Im still waiting for Bungie to acknowledge the fact about how the world is not an open world and If it is but we have to pay for it like in another DLC then please tell us! I feel lied to about that..
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Edited by nao: 12/13/2014 3:59:50 AMNo, the game was a disappointment. The DLC is a -blam!-ing joke, and the reviews reflect that.
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Bump dat ass
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Bungie splitting up into the new Bungie and 343 changed both companies forever. Both companies are incompetent and can't deliver what the old Bungie had previously delivered with Halo. Seriously.... this company will keep making casual CoD-like games with barebones content and 343 will keep -blam!- Halo and turning it further into CoD. They can't bottle lightning like they did with Halo. That was only possible with the old Bungie. These new guys are incompetent and disconnected from their community. We need to get over it and leave them to rot.
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Bump!
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U sir have spoken the truth that many can't bear to think about, pravo :)
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I like the weapons, the new Strike and (eventually) the new Raid too. I'm just disappointed that the extra story is laughably small and empty. I was really hoping that The Dark Below was going to be Bungies chance to address the criticism of the main game story and it just fell flat. Dinklebot isn't in it, The Stranger doesn't appear, the Speaker doesn't appear, the Vanguard has no bearing at all. I don't know why there isn't more involvement between the DLC and the main game characters. It just seems completely self-contained and detached.
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Bump. I completely agree that we should be given more content with each dlc drop...I mean if you're going to continue the story (which with a lack of what was given they should) You need to make it chapters or seasons. 10 to 15 story per dlc with maybe 5 strikes 1 raid and 5 maps. Now that isn't much to ask because so much money was given for this game development and not to mention the money made from the first week alone. They have more staff now also so the excuse they don't have time for all that is out of question. This is definitely a doable thing
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Very disappointing. Especially since they called it an expansion. When you say expansion I think WoW expansion. To make up for this paltry offering they need to take the WoW/Guild Wars 2 route and release massive patches that contain more story content. Hell GW2 has a new story mission every 2 weeks.
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"Objection 2: 'You guys complain about not enough new content, but then you don't want to do the new content when provided'. Answer: The content provided is the same old grind, killing the same old enemies, in the same old places ... sure great new content. #DoubleSpeak" Same can be said for every single shooter I have ever played, DLC's included. Yet people eat those up too. But hey, I guess 350 people out of millions don't approve of the DLC. I'd say it's safe to say it's a success.
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I feel the opposite . Definitely worth it compared To almost Every other dlc .
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Sounds like Lord yesua doesn't get, laid enough at least we got more the call of duty those -blam!-ers charge like 20$ for 3 PvP maps
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Nobody broke first of all, so don't go there!!😡 I rather spend my money on something worth "vaule". This DLC called; expansion pack, didn't add anything worth my extra money. Plus, I don't feel like regrinding for new weapons and armor when I have good gear now. All my time invested was wasted. In Skyrim, you can improve your old weapons and armor to become stronger and add new perks as your skills increased . Not just throw it away(purple gear) and buy new set of gear!!! This game right now is the same s*** different day formula. I'm tired of it!
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Honestly it sounds like destiny isn't the type of game for you
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Lord yesua : another whiner
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I think the DLC offered plenty for the 20 dollars. No one cries when any, "Call of duty" DLC with 4 maps comes out.
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Remember when we thought we were getting new planets and moons in the DLC. When we were hoping for the possibility of space battles? When we thought the epic cinematic storytelling would unfold and we'd have days of content to play.
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This has to be the most whiny cry baby thread out of all the whiny cry baby threads that have come out about this DLC. This is the one whiny cry baby thread... TO RULE THEM ALL.
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Edited by Alfy: 12/13/2014 9:05:01 AMGood post. Review sites share your pain http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/12/7384909/destiny-the-dark-below-review-no-light-above 5/10 http://www.destructoid.com/review-destiny-the-dark-below-284869.phtml 6.5/10 http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/12/the-dark-below-dlc-highlights-the-worst-parts-of-destiny/ For all of us that wanted a story, you can find it at Penny Arcade http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2014/12/12
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the only main reason why ppl play this game, is because other current games can't compete. it's still bad. the graphics are good because they have to be "next gen". that's a sad thing to run on if your game only has graphics. next, it's 2014 going on 2015...not 1990, games are supposed to be flawless by now. if you think that the gaming industry isn't doing this on purpose "making bad content," you're in the past. i've been a gamer all of my life, and if you can't see the trail of sorrow that the companies have left. you are stuck in the past. the only thing i can tell you, is don't buy the next expansion or destiny 2. myself, i'm probably never going a buy a single game from bungie or the developers of call of duty. they don't want to go all out on a product, why should i spend my hard worked money on it?
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Bump 20 Euro for 3 very Bad Single Mission and a very Bad Story i want my Money back !! This is Not for Players
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[quote]Crota's Scrota[/quote] This made my day. I completely agree. This game had insane potential, potential that I would've waited years for and forked money into. For a game with some of the most fun gameplay I've had, it lass so little time. The game should have been at least 3X the size of what we got to start with. The expansion should have added whole new reals to explore, enemies to fight, and maybe... just maybe, get a little bit of story.
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Have to agree based on what I've played of it so far. Only the last mission amounts to anything much , though like you I was pleasantly surprised at the conclusion to the urn quest (more of these please bungie, add one a month or something). Going to try the strikes today, but I really had expected a couple more story missions at least. A new patrol map area would have been nice.