I'll explain my experience this morning - I got a sneaky playtime in before work. I'll also state for the record right now I was technically in the wrong so I'm not whining. However, please don't judge me until you've read the facts as I really don't think I deserved this.
Playing the Devil's lair strike in order to get my Bad Juju and Invective bounties up. I start the strike...
1. Straight away the other two players appear to leave... Right, on my own. No big deal, just be a little more careful.
2. Get to the section where the ghost "takes his time" decoding the door. Halfway through a level 26 player joins in. "Great I can be less careful" although I don't need to worry as he is going for it - but needs reviving a couple of times. Again, no big deal as I've needed reviving many times in the past – it’s called teamwork.
3. We get to the Walker section and I start gunning away at the mobs and boss. About a third of the way through, my partner comes down stairs and says "Where's my cup of tea you promised me?". She's right and so, guilt ridden, I make her a cup of tea in record time while she rummages for the pain killers as she's still suffering from minor surgery and now a cold as well.
4. I race back and find level 26 has killed off the walker and worked his way to Sepiks Prime. I race on and get the preceding hallway when my darling lady calls me back saying "Well, are you going to help me put the medicine back into the cupboard. She's emptied the cupboard finding the Ibruprofen. "I'll do it myself, you just sit down dear."
"Well, I'm here now so why don't you help now?"
Decision time. Do I a). go and help and AFK for a 2nd time, or b). incur the inevitable wrath of a sick and grumpy partner?
I decide (correctly) b. and help as quickly as possible.
5. I return to the game to find that another player (level 30 I’ll call them) has joined in and clearly raced through the game on his sparrow and is proceeding to pummel me every time I spawn. I jump back into the game and l mow down the mobs and take down a portion of Sepiks in the process. This is with the level 30 continuing to pummel me with his sparrow for a while before jumping off and camping in the doorway to shoots Sepiks a few times before the strike ends while the "anti-camping mobs" proceed to appear because he's camping. He runs off every time they appear leaving them for us to shoot as we're the only targets left.
6. I look at the stats at the end. I’ve got 57 kills and 18 assists. Level 26 has 75 kills and 15 assists. The level 30? 0 kills and 1 assist (presumably Sepiks). 0 KILLS!
Seriously? 0 kills. An experienced player with no kills in the easiest strike? Given the fact the game won’t allow you to generate a sparrow after a certain point and if you join the game halfway through, and that it will join you with the other players I’m left wondering whether they were AFKing from the start and decided to race along once the main part of the carnage had died down. Even if they weren’t, they joined in right at the end and instead of actually trying to make up a bit, they decide to punish a player who has actually played from the start. I feel for - and apologise to - the level 26 as I had every intention of helping out, but couldn’t get out of being away (not without major argument with my partner) and they were therefore left to essentially solo parts of the game. The other player? Either AFKing themselves or not exactly entering into the team spirit but felt justified in punishing me?
As much as it pains me to say it, this is why I don’t believe there is an effective method of policing or punishing AFKers, no matter how annoying it is for all of us (it’s happened to me loads of times). I’m all for punishing AFKers, but not those who simply can’t avoid the situation in hand in the real world. Do you punish those with weak bladders, children, dodgy internet connections etc. You WILL end up punishing the innocent which is NOT what justice is about. The most effective way of punishing them is by reporting them to Bungie and letting the Banhammer take its revenge.
As ever, I appreciate this is my opinion and I do not expect anyone to agree with me.
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Well said, you don't need to justify this and I'm sure there are many people caught in similar situations. I don't know man, there has to be something we can do, a majority of people are simply abusers :/
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Edited by KebintheGervil: 12/9/2014 11:57:48 AMI'm a big believer in justice. Quite frankly, it “boils my piss” when people AFK as it simply makes the strike harder. I do believe that if these people are serial offenders, they will be banned/punished. However, it is nigh on impossible to stop it without making the innocent suffer. How would you stop it happening? Pretty much every suggestion I’ve seen would end up with the innocent suffering in some way. You would end up seeing players leave because they can’t be doing with running a strike in case they get booted and punished for the slightest indiscretion. This may look good in the short term, but how do you get the players back once they’ve left? It would look pretty lonely being the only guardian out there. I read a statement once along the lines of “We can’t kill everyone in [insert country here] to make sure we kill all the bad people”. Reporting the offenders is the fairest process. Bungie have it right.