Ok, I said it. I couldn't stop, thorn imo is the best PvP gun currently. Now I know all you hawkmoon users will be jumping and saying no way. But no disrespect, thorn destroys hawkmoon on a more consistent basis. Thorn was awesome before the update, with the increased mag and reload, I just go on sprees now with my gunslinger. The ttk is ridiculous and the dot overpenetrates and some rare scenarios can shoot 2 people at the same frikkin time. The last word and voc come close to a challenge as well but loose out on versatility. The vex is still not great in PvP, and Suros is almost non existent after the nerf. Thorn is awesome, what do you guys think?