Honestly the gun got a bit better in PVP... but not enough to take the place of other guns. But i'll have to say, I actually had a GREAT time using this gun in PVE. Ran some level 28 missions and killed mob after mob for a good 15 minutes and I think I only reloaded 2x total. This included some Yellow mobs. It was really great when dealing with a RUSH of multiple mobs to just be able to down one after the other NEVER taking ADS down accept to quickly scan to another soon to be dead target. If you have Bad juju and haven't taken off the shelf yet post patch. Dust that thing off, and have a blast with it in PVE. It REALLY is a fun gun now. at least to me it is.