I don't really understand why people are convincing themselves that Thorn is great. It has low impact resulting in a fairly bad time to kill, the mag is still kind of small, and its range isn't much better than TDYK or LHF since both have range upgrades. It has a niche in PvP corner shooting, but it's not very versatile. It can hold down a few specific points on the map well, but it's hard to use for capturing a point and in a straight up gunfight at typical range TLW still beats it by a considerable margin.
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I would say Thorn IS great now in PvE. Then again I need to properly test it out before I am sure about this. At least in paper it is a beast.
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Here's how I see it: Low impact, still a smaller magazine than many more popular handcannons, balanced against average-at-best stability, but good range, reasonable reload, and the DoT. I can see how the DoT is good for PvP, but I'm not really seeing the benefit in PvE. The AIs that do take cover should be one-shot by a handcannon anyway, and the ones that aren't one-shot don't really hide, so you're going to benefit more from fast follow up shots and mag size than from a non-stacking DoT. TDYK gets crowd control, zen moment, and send it, so Thorn only beats it on the DoT, which is not well suited to PvE. LHF has similar advantages. Fatebringer provides ultrafast reloads and firefly, which is really the best crowd-destroying upgrade in the game.
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its all about fun
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I'm all for fun, but you posted that they are the 'ultimate exotics'. That's not really correct. Icebreaker and GHorn still rule PvE, and Thorn is only arguably a competitive crucible weapon; it's hardly worthy of being called the 'ultimate' gun.
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read the end haha, i should have made it clearer but then i asked the fanbase hay do you think its true or there something else out there?
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Right, and I said I disagreed and was confused about why anybody would even think that about Thorn in the first place. I didn't say it isn't fun, just that it isn't the best by any reasonable criteria.
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ill agree sorry for the mixup guardian i still love you
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Fair enough man, I think you're a swell guy too. I can see how someone might have taken offense at my wording, I think I've just been spending too much time with the lawyers in my family over the holidays.
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i didnt take offense haha i dont get angry over this stuff all i was saying was on my part my wording of the post was awkward and so i was like you sowwy hahah dont sweat man i love you stillll.
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ill agree