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11/26/2014 5:18:26 PM
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How can anybody here argue that the precursors would defeat Abeloth? She wasn't a lifeform, she was an entity.
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Precursors are entities too.
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They're mortal.
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No they very much are not. They are older than time, cannot die (they can self resurrect into whatever they want like the primordial did into the Gravemind). 100 billion years old. Several hundred million times older than abeloth.
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Evidence of this? How are they older than time?
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Halo Silentium, the Primordial Gravemind sends a ghost of Forthencho, the Ancient Human Lord of Admirals, to tell the Librarian one final secret. The Gravemind, through the Lord of Admirals, informs the Librarian that the Precursors had "come from a time before there were stars" and had amassed a repository of over 100billion years of knowledge hidden somewhere in the galaxy. This repository was the Domain, a mysterious timeless Ethereal connection to the universe the Forerunners had been using to store and access memories and meditate. As the Domain's physical anchor was a Precursor Neural Physics structure, the Halo pulse would destroy the Domain, and with it, the Forerunners' entire 10million year history and culture; thus, the Forerunners would be committing spiritual suicide. The universe is 13.7billion years old. The Precursors (who are often referred too as "Timeless") have existed for over 100billion years and stored that history in the Domain, itself a living, thinking entity of unknown power and intent. As such, the Precursors are older than time, at least certainly older than our universe by several times. Hell the forerunners are older than Abeloth, with ages of tens of thousand of years being quite common to Forerunners, who were functionally immortal thanks to technology. The Precursors however are not mortal; even killing them only mildly inconveniences them, as they will just self resurrect.
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So is Abeloth.
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Yes, but only by a specific dagger.
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And Precursors can only be killed if they wish to be.
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Is that why they got whooped by the forunners and didn't come back to life scrub stars wars all the way and I'm a halo fan it's just a simple fact that star wars wins in the long run plus the flood wouldn't help the halo universe it would be a threat to both universes
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The Precursors aren't just your average species.
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Neither were the Sith species. But they're still mortal. Same as the Precursors (if they even existed).
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Precursors can "die", but death doesn't matter to them. It would be extremely difficult to defeat even one of them.
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And it would be extremely difficult to defeat anybody skilled in the force. Darth Nihilus wiped our entire planets by speaking to them, yet was defeated by an old apprentice. That means Jedi, through use of the force, can overcome even the hardest of obstacles.
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The apprentice did it because he was a wound in the force. The Precursors could easily defeat most Force-users. The Forerunners could contend with the Jedi. And once the Gravemind gains the ability to use the force, no Force-user could beat him.
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How would the grave mind develop the ability to use the force? It's not an ability you gain. And I'm not talking weak Jedi, I mean users like Exar Kun. Some Sith were no longer connected to the world physically, and just held their body together using the force. So some Sith are capable of using the force without even being physically alive.
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As for the second part, that isn't really relevant. As for the Gravemind, you do know what it does, right? The Gravemind assimilates all organic matter, knowledge, experiences, skills, and abilities. Even if the Gravemind can't use the Force just after infecting a Jedi, he could physically add the Jedi directly to his own organic mass. From that point I could get extremely hypothetical and just say he immediately destroys everything in his path, but he at least gains the ability to use the force, but with an infinite willpower and strength to back it up.
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Unless of course the gravemind can absorb spirits too through some weird use of magic, which then or course he solos Halo and Syarwars combined.
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You do realize the Gravemind doesn't kill his victims, right?
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Yes, but im saying the gravemind can't control the spirits of the body's he's controlled. If the body were to be killed, or already was, the force stays with the spirit, not with the body.
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Literally every part of a being is consumed and assimilated by the Gravemind. None of his victims die, they just become part of him. So "spirits" don't matter.
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Yes it does. The force isn't attached to the body. It's attached to the spirit. So yes, he could use the body as a puppet, but it wouldn't be able to utilize the force to its full potential.
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He doesn't just use the body, m8. Something tells me you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about when it comes to Halo.
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Something tells me you know nothing about starwars. You seem to think the force can be matched by any form of technology. The gravemind assimilates all of its puppets into one collective intelligence. Am I wrong?
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You have not brought up anything about Star Wars that I didn't already know about. Yes, the Force can be matched. And yes, the Gravemind does do that, but it doesn't just assimilate the body. It assimilates everything about the person. [i]everything.[/i] The ability to use the Force would not be exempt.
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I PMed you.
