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Yuuzhon vong. Infinite Empire. Abeloth. My point is made.
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  • Precursors.

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  • Precursors are useless in this argument. It's force vs gravemind.

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  • Graveminds are a form of precursors. It's precursors vs. celestials and high sith powers.

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  • Yeah. So the force.

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  • But you stated precursors aren't in the equation, while they are.

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  • Well I guess if you put it that way. It's more specifically the gravemind.

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  • It's not though.

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  • And the star forge unlimited armies at the disposal of the Star Wars universe. As well as the force which is in all matter in the universe and I don't believe there are any Jedi in halo

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  • We'll conventional warfare is useless at this point. It's really just gravemind vs force.

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  • True I'm still force side though. Anything made of matter can be manipulated by the force so bam Star Wars wins

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  • >Flood trumps nearly everything in Star Wars.

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  • Or nearly any other wound in the force?

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  • How would the flood defeat Nihilus or Abeloth?

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  • Like I said, nearly. However, as the Flood consumes Force-Users, it will essentially become Nihilus, except much more widespread and much more effected by each infection. A Gravemind at that point would have no problem dispatching Nihilus. Also, like I said, Nihilus can't exactly control his hunger. He won't [i]not[/i] consume Jedi and Sith. And his power isn't enough to fight back trillions of ships and even more people. As for Abeloth, she has been defeated and "died". Precursors might find her a challenge, but will win, whether permanently or by imprisonment.

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  • And how would the flood get close enough to users like Darth Nihilus? He'd absorb the spores almost immediately.

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  • He can't absorb the spores. Not that it matters. The Gravemind doesn't need Nihilus, it needs any Force-user. And it won't be difficult when the Flood is working with the Precursors and the Forerunners, who both have the capacity for teleportation.

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  • The Precursors and Forerunner are useless in this debate, as their technology is matched by forces in Star Wars. This is battle of who is the stronger entity, the Gravemind or the Force.

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  • What? Literally nothing in SW comes close to a fraction of possibly being a quarter of the way to a fraction of the technology of the Precursors. They don't even match the Forerunners, really. You really underestimate the Precursors.

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  • Name the abilities of the precursors (other than creating life). I guarantee I can match most, if not all with a Starwars counterpart.

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  • travel among galaxies and accelerate the evolution of intelligent life changed into the dust found by the ancient humans (the latter created the Flood) These orbital bridges, or 'star roads' were used in the final stages of the Forerunner-Flood war. They seemingly caused local space-time to warp and mutate when using their version of slipspace travel. Neural physics was a Precursor concept. The Precursors felt that the Mantle extended to the entire universe, including energy and matter. The principles of neural physics also postulated that the entire universe was living, but in a way that was beyond the comprehension of biological organisms.[1] Precursor technology was based upon the principles of neural physics. While this normally made most Precursor artifacts effectively indestructible Unbending filaments were a type of Precursor construction. It was noted that they could link entire worlds and systems. Like most Precursor technology, they were also virtually indestructible Tier 0: Transsentient Some Precursor artifacts were known to precede the Forerunners by hundreds of millions of years, and, being impervious to conventional forms of damage, were durable enough to survive being cycled inside planets' crusts by plate tectonics These artifacts—mainly star roads—were what eventually turned the war in the Flood's favor as they were capable of effortlessly either outright physically tearing apart Forerunner fleets or remotely deactivating their weapons, AIs and shields, rendering them helpless against the Flood After reaching the Key Mind stage, Flood compound minds gained the ability to tap into neural physics and along with it the Precursors' reality-mutation capabilities.[31] When moving across the galaxy, Flood-controlled Precursor constructs would convert space-time itself to be unsuitable for Forerunner slipspace drives Precursors possessed unknown means of correcting causality The widespread use of neural physics transit affected the galactic-scale magnetic fields that marked the borders of the ecumene's themas vast reserve containing the totality of the Precursors' accumulated knowledge and experience - amounting to a hundred billion years, with most of the information gathered originating from the beginning of the universe, or earlier. This reserve of knowledge was contained in Precursor constructs in the Milky Way galaxy and projected a massive field through which the records could be accessed anywhere regardless of locality. The Domain itself was also a conscious entity, although this only became apparent near the end of the Forerunner-Flood war

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  • The Sith also has teleportation. And how would one force user give the grave mind any power? The ability to utilize the force comes with the spirit, so unless the Gravemind could absorb a spirit (which it can't), it can't do much.

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  • Abeloth can only be defeated by one object, which doesn't exist in the Halo universe.

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  • But it does in the Star Wars universe. And teleportation and knowledge assimilation says it would eventually be found. As well as the Precursors' mastery of technology that could easily imprison Abeloth.

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  • Edited by EwCringe: 11/26/2014 6:39:12 PM
    How would it imprison Abeloth? She was imprisoned through a means of the force. And it's Halo Universe vs Star Wars universe, so the dagger of Mortis wouldn't be available to Team Halo Or at least I thought that was the rules. I maybe wrong.

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  • Just because Halo doesn't get it at first doesn't mean they can't. There are no rules to Master Chief picking up a lightsaber, for example. The Precursors could trap her in a black hole, or within a tear in space-time, easily.

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