Why would I want to go there? To answer both questions, the view is spectacular, also I like to use my imagination, having theory's as to what has happened before the collapse and what happened to the cars. I'm not into the PVP, I like to explore with friends the wilderness and we expected Destiny to be that game. Lastly I totally agree with the last sentence, at least we have something in common lol. But my question to you is have you bought the expansion pass?