I have a fully upgraded juju. Anyone who says to upgrade the mag size doesn't have string of curses unlocked. A larger mag is pointless for this gun it essentially has a bottomless clip. It needs a damage boost. It currently takes 9 bullets to the head in PVP to kill. I think it should be buffed so 7 headshots kill. This still will required 3 bursts but accounts for the inevitable lost shots out of some of the bursts. This also will in effect make the gun feel as tho the mag is deeper.
I could see the addition of maybe one extra burst to the mag in addition to a damage buff so you could switch targets mid magazine and still be able to kill them (6 bursts total, 3 bursts per kill in PVP)
PVE wise people are simply misusing this weapon. Again I think it should have a slight damage buff (if any!)as my maxed out one still can't kill a vandal with a full burst to the head. This is a crowd control weapon for dealing with adds. You shouldn't be bringing it into phogoth unless you are focusing on killing acolytes and thrall. Another possible fix is simply extending the length of the damage buff from stein of curses. It currently lasts maybe 1 sec. Extending it to 3-5 sec would do wonders for this weapon forcing the player to "charge up" it's damage on a dreg before focusing fire on a captain for example. Also I think there should be an elemental modifier on the weapon I think void fits best but really anything to make it slightly more viable than dealing with adds exclusively. This is a niche weapon and I respect it as such. No weapon will out preform this one on dealing with adds.
Now the glitches with this weapon...
.5 Only the bullets prior to the kill shot are returned to the mag. I don't know if this is intentional but it's annoying and as it stands currently with a bare minimum mag size it doesn't really have room to be missing a few bullets.
1. Instant reload doesn't work on harpies so this gun is pointless on vex levels.
2. Auto reload freezes often. Seems like it is where the clip would have ended had auto reload not kicked in.
3. I know there is another one but it's escaping me right now
TL;DR:
Slight damage buff in PVP
Slight damage buff in PVE [u]or[/u] extend time of damage buff from string of curses
Add elemental damage to the weapon (void)
Add 1 more burst to the current mag size
(15->18)
Fix bugs in the weapon
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The juju is good for everything except boss fights
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That's because harpies self-destruct when they are close to lethal damage.
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I thought supplicants self destruct....
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A supplicant is a souped up harpie.
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Is this actually true? I've never heard this before but it explains a lot
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Dude, this is a "primary" weapon. I have a fully upgraded juju too, but as it stands, my 44 mag vanquisher does a better job at even crowd control. If. A primary is only good at killing dregs and acolytes, it can't serve as a "primary" weapon. It's just trash. I tried so hard to like this weapon (i spent the energies to fully upgrade it!) Yet it still sucks ass.
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I mean I get the impact boost (who would complain about getting more damage output) but honestly crowd control isn't that bad especially if you are playing with a few people. You just pick them off once they get low on health. So I agree with what you said about misusing this weapon.
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I think you are confused by the way I started my post. Read my TL;DR. I agree this weapon is not where it should be. I'm simply addressing that a 30 round mag is not the fix this gun needs.
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I'd say even 18- or 21 mag would be fine. But seriously up the impact... It should be more than just a crowd control weapon... But I guess in essence I agree with you.
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Even with string of curses it's not that good dude especially in pve it can't kill majors with 3 clips thats -blam!-en bad
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Edited by Tosevite 187: 11/2/2014 5:49:01 AMAs I said in my post I don't think it's really intended for any purpose except adds which it handles pretty well. PVE wise I did mention it also needs a damage buff by extending string of curses time/straight damage increase along with a void damage modifier making it more useful dealing with some shields of tougher enemies I'm not sure the fix you are suggesting alternatively but to counter those who believe this gun needs a 30 round mag... It really won't kill things much faster. The problem using this gun is it's DPS is outmatched by virtually every legendary. A 30 round mag + string of curses you'll surely never need to touch the reload button but other guns will still kill the target faster and more effectively ammo wise