kinda agree, my group cleared the raid legit in about 90 min a few weeks in a row, so if knock the boss off saves us say 30 min why not? Also, the Templar gives you are extra chest for exploiting (unless you can prevent him from teleporting legit). On normal with a good group I have found it faster to just burn Atheon than to wipe 10 times while the locks try to get him in perfect position.