i've seen the video's people glitching Atheon off with warlocks , but dont see the point .
its a challenge to do the Vault of Glass the first few times learning the ropes , but doing it properly is more intense and fun for the pure rush of knowing you worked hard to earn the rewards you get from it .
i've gone through 10 times on normal with my friends , i been trying to get the raid boots first but no luck !
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I don't even get the point of glitching Atheon, it's, imo, with our crew, the easiest part of the raid, once everybody has learned his task.
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In my experience doing the raids weekly, it has become some what of what feels like strike farming. I only need one piece of gear and exo and ill have everything obtainable from raid. So I go with hopes of getting one piece of gear and walk out with additions to my stacks of already large shards/energy. I don't even consider it a "Raid" anymore. 2 boss fights with lack luster phases is just sad in my opinion. Seems like you spend more time going from point A to point B rather than doing the fights. I'm by no means tooting my own horn and saying I'm the greatest player. I've found though that the casual, play twice a week players, still have no issue learning the mechanics and completing the fights. So far the only thing I can confirm is, if a player is bad, no amount of work inside a raid zone with people who depend on you to do a job will ever give you experience. These people need to learn to play in general. As of right now they collect their gear because they can. If and when this gets patched like they said it would be, these players will quickly find themselves up "ship" creek without a paddle. That I'm 100% for.