I agree. But, I take no issues with how people want to play the game. If i get invited into a grp that is cheesing I go along for the ride. Im usually there to help anyhow. With some practice and hard work though, doing it legit becomes easy, and almost second nature.
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Well I was just addressing the OP. He seems like he wants to do the raid legit and was annoyed by the group cheesing. And he claimed he wanted to do the hard raid now which I think even fewer people do legitimately.