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In pve it needs that in pvp its fine. You can kill 2 people with 1 clip, and you can always just wear handcannon reload speed increasing gloves. I get 20 kills plus with thorn per match it would be excessive if it had a bigger cylinder for pvp. Increasing the reload speed wouldnt break it for pvp.
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I get the same results. It still needs a bigger magazine and faster reload.
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Maybe he doesn't understand