Yesterday I played through the Vault of Glass fully for the first time.
It was great to see the beautiful design of it, but the problem was the people I was with.
For starters, it was a bunch of younger dudes who have a mouth on them xD
This guy was so proud to tell us how his lvl 30 has done the raid 100 times and that his own vault is filled with Legendaries and Exotics.
At first I was impressed, but once we got to the Templar... everything changed.
This was no longer the raid I played the first time, and died multiple times trying to do it legit.
No.
Instead, we had this lvl 30 telling me that "Hunter's are useless in the VoG". To which I asked why (considering we had a lvl 29 Hunter with us and I myself play as a Hunter), and he merely responded because they are.
Now it was only when we got to the Templar that I realised why I wasn't enjoying this.
The players were more concerned with glitching the Templar and Atheon, pushing them off the edge with their EPIC WARLOCK GRENADES, while me and another player sat in a corner, feeling goddamn useless. It sucked.
The whole point of a raid is to come together as a team and devise strategies to defeat the obstacles in front of you. I hardly felt like I even did anything in the raid, as these guys carried on talking about their "Amazing skills at pushing Atheon".
So, I sat in Atheons lair, literally hiding behind a -blam!-ing pillar while this dude compalined that Atheon was not going in the right spot.
I hadn't even shot a single shot at him, I hardly even knew what I was doing because this group were so focused on glitching him out.
I'm now on the Hard mode of the raid, but I don't dare go for it with another bunch of randoms for fear of sitting in a corner once more, listening to try hards as they talk about their 1000000 Exotics and Legendaries.
In conclusion, people are more concerned with glitching a raid and gaining loot, than actually finishing it legit.
[b]What is the point of glitching to get gear, when the gear is used for the Raid anyway? If you want play a dress up sim, go ahead and google a shitty flash game.[/b]
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The first time I went through hard mode, a Canadian showed us how to cheese one part. The next run, it was some Scott's. It doesn't matter what country you are from. The issue is that it does take time to come together as a team (like football, baseball and any other team sport). That takes practice. That's why throwing random players together will not work. I play with players from different countries and states. Finding that "sweet" spot for running a raid is very difficult. It's a huge commitment. And this game is already time consuming. Who knew that spending 100.00 for a game would take all this effort and time?? I also believe "cheesing" is a strategy, it's not cheating because there is a certain skill set that is required. Some cheesing strategies can't be done by most and it does take time so why take that strategy away, instead award that strategy with shards, or strange coins, etc. Also, in one "strategy" your K/D ratio takes a dive. 100 deaths to finish the raid? It's a risk to the player who uses that strategy. If you go through the raid without cheesing (btw, hate that word) then you get the guns and the armor. That's the incentive. It's always about the bounty. We (all countries) are always looking for ways to cut down time. That's actually a business model for many if not companies so why condemn players in trying to save time. Life is short and you want to fill all you can in a short timeframe so I don't think that "strategy" is bad. I think the bounties should just match the effort. I believe you may start out cheesing but in the end if you really want the bounties then you will put in the time to commit to RAID. Instead of thinking of this as just a "game", maybe we should look at this like a team sport. Maybe there should be leagues with divisions. That would put a new twist to Destiny. :). Btw. Our families and work may also look at it different if there were leagues. If you are on a league (like bowling or softball) your significant "other" would not look at you as wasting time playing a "stupid" game. Its about socializing, accomplishing goals, and obtaining skill sets. It's all about presentation!