The first time I went through hard mode, a Canadian showed us how to cheese one part. The next run, it was some Scott's. It doesn't matter what country you are from. The issue is that it does take time to come together as a team (like football, baseball and any other team sport). That takes practice. That's why throwing random players together will not work. I play with players from different countries and states. Finding that "sweet" spot for running a raid is very difficult. It's a huge commitment. And this game is already time consuming. Who knew that spending 100.00 for a game would take all this effort and time?? I also believe "cheesing" is a strategy, it's not cheating because there is a certain skill set that is required. Some cheesing strategies can't be done by most and it does take time so why take that strategy away, instead award that strategy with shards, or strange coins, etc. Also, in one "strategy" your K/D ratio takes a dive. 100 deaths to finish the raid? It's a risk to the player who uses that strategy. If you go through the raid without cheesing (btw, hate that word) then you get the guns and the armor. That's the incentive. It's always about the bounty. We (all countries) are always looking for ways to cut down time. That's actually a business model for many if not companies so why condemn players in trying to save time. Life is short and you want to fill all you can in a short timeframe so I don't think that "strategy" is bad. I think the bounties should just match the effort. I believe you may start out cheesing but in the end if you really want the bounties then you will put in the time to commit to RAID. Instead of thinking of this as just a "game", maybe we should look at this like a team sport. Maybe there should be leagues with divisions. That would put a new twist to Destiny. :). Btw. Our families and work may also look at it different if there were leagues. If you are on a league (like bowling or softball) your significant "other" would not look at you as wasting time playing a "stupid" game. Its about socializing, accomplishing goals, and obtaining skill sets. It's all about presentation!