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Edited by Ghost J34: 10/26/2014 7:38:40 PM
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Daily "where's the Bad Juju/Thorn buff you announced over a month ago?" thread

Well? You have the time to nerf the Mythoclast and adjust values for Scout Rifles across the board within the same time span, but don't have the time to buff the exotics you stated you were going to adjust over a month ago? At the time when you announced the buffs, 99% of the community didn't even know the Mythoclast existed. Yet, the Mythoclast got adjusted before the other guns get their already announced buffs? Do you even logic? There's really no excuse for it at this point. Edit: I realize some of you think the Thorn does not need a buff, and while that's fine (I don't have it, I don't know), it's also missing the point. The real focus here is the fact that Bungie announced that they were going to buff both the Bad Juju and Thorn over a month ago, yet no changes have been made still (but changes were made to other guns during the same time frame).

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    I just received the bad juju and I don't see why people think it's so bad I'm quite enjoying it, besides getting used to a pulse rifle. My only problem is that it should be able to take on a surous regime at a distance

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    • Yea apparently all bungie cares about is nerfing good guns that only like 1% of the players even have.

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      • [b]Bungie[/b]: sorry to hear about that, we're currently trying to rid the game of loot caves because its not the way we want you players to play our game, you should only play the game WE want you to play so that takes priority than your weapons buff.

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      • Thorn is complete garbage right now. Fatebringer is much much better and it's a legendary. The mag size (yes I know it's a cylinder so effoff all you anal retentive people) is way to small and the reload time is truckload. The impact is good and range is okay but overall it sucks and should be demoted to legendary status.

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        • I don't understand why it takes so long. is it that hard to simply add a few more bullets and/or increase the reload time on the Thorn/Bad Juju? The thorn's reload speed absolutely kills it. If you've ever been lucky enough to get both Thorn and The Last Word i'd assume after using the Last Word; you threw your Thorn away faster than Bungie took away the ability to buy Ascendant Shards/Energy from Xur.

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          • Bungie and Deej lied. What's new...

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          • Last word still needs a range increase.

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            • As someone who just got Bad Juju I hope we get something soon. Exotics are supposed to feel epic, yet every one I've used in this game feels worse than most of the legendary weapons.

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            • Yea they were too busy nerfing stuff to bother with things that matter.

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            • I slightly agree. I understand it takes time to adjust these changes in a balanced way, but some information to fans would be nice! Informing fans of whats going on in your patching, is the key to "mmo" success ladies and gents! Anway, i fully upgraded my thorn because i was a bit bored, so hoping it won`t be wasted shards! (although it looks so awesome, i might just use it anyway)

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            • I have the Juju upgraded to String of Curses and as stated - it simply too underpowered. Maybe this changes with the further level buffs but from the sound of things, I doubt it! The String of Curses is only useful in PvE where you are battling low level foes. It is as about as useful as a chocolate tea pot in anything above 24 and PvP. The Daily, Weekly, Nightfall and VoG on a higher level....forget it! Takes more than 15 bullets to drop anyone in that without taking into account shields so its one redeeming feature becomes useless. Probably the best fix method would be a slight raise in damage per shot (maybe an anything above the waist multiplier increase for torso shots also) and/or an increase in the mag size slightly - maybe 3 to 4 extra bursts if that makes sense? It needs to be that you can technically kill most normal foes with a burst or so to share - its not meant to be a scout rifle where every shot missed is felt. Treating it as such ruins it. That said, it should not be a case of it can kill everything in one mag so you get the never-ending mag effect. THAT makes it overpowered. It should be kill most normal foes at below 24 and if you hit every shot, most above. This is why the Myth and Suros are very dangerous and goto weapons in most cases - the ability to kill 2-4 people in a mag is not acceptable. I am halfway through the Thorn Exotic run and I've pretty much lost interest. I have a good legendary HC and I'll stick with that I think. Anyhoo, that's my 2p. I'd like it to be adjusted as I didn't work hard through the bounty to get it to not use it as its pants lol. I'm not as skilled as others :). Chris

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              • Both the Juju and the Thorn don't have a good enough clip size.

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              • the Thorn needs a buff. The reload time and the clip size is just A JOKE if you compare it to other legendary weapons. [b]IT IS EXOTIC[/b]

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                • The Vex and Pocket as well as other guns got nerfed because people made it clear, besides with those guns and auto rifles being very effective, people would've rather opted for them rather than complain over one underpowered gun. That's why I'm guessing

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                • Don't forget Pocket Infinity! That got whacked with the nerf bat too. It's a valid point you raise. I see no reason why a buff to weapons would be any harder or take any longer than nerfing others.

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                  • Bad JuJu's buff is way overdue. Almost every legendary pulse rifle is better than it in every way. The only thing that makes it different is the string of curses that isn't even very useful. I think they are just spending a shit ton of time debating whether or not the buff will start a nerf riot. If they make it slightly better than a legendary that means it is unfair to everybody who ever played the game and should be turned into a tampon launcher so that everyone has a fair chance.

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                    • I'm predicting a major patch this week. They skipped the hotfix for last week which they said they were doing, so I can see them combining all these issues and putting them into one big patch. We will at least get one hotfix this week because the Atheon and templar push off can't go on any longer. It's breaking this game and giving rewards to people that otherwise wouldn't get them. Level 27's are getting the mythoclast, it's ridiculous.

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                    • bungie stated that they understand that both the weapons are a little weak right now... but their main goal is to make the game playable to the average player. This means adjusting anything the "break" the game(ie mythocast). also bungie never said a buff is coming, they said their (bad juju and thorn) will come, be patient with bungie. also in reference to the mythocast. yes it was broken, i a average player becomes the best in the game/match with just one weapon then that weapon is broken. balance in a game is when everyone is doing their own thing, not when everyone is doing the same thing. O and don't complain about something not getting a buff if you don't have it

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                      • I got both these bounties about a day after each other and I haven't completed one. I'll get to it sooner or later...

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                      • Thorn doesn't need a buff It's fine as it is

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                        • I have the Thorn and in comparsion to the Hawkmoon or Last Word it is laughable. It needs an increase in the magazine to atleast match the other two and stability buff. Bad Juju needs a complete overhaul... A pulse rifle with 12 bullets in the magazine? LOL! A fcking handgun has more lol.

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                          • in my opinion some guns are perfect for a class. I'll use Thorn as an example, it has good impact and range, plus the lingering damage is nice but it has terrible reload and stability ( that doesn't bother me too much) The gunslinger has 2 perks which can make Thorn godly, and thats chain of woe and gunslingers trance chain of woe: increases reload speed with each precision kill (stacks 3 times) Gunslingers trance: Increases stability with each precision kill ( stacks 3 times) so 3 precision kills i got a hancannon with the stability of a scoutrifle and the reload speed of a fusion rifle maxed out.

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                            • I agree. Thorn either needs more rounds in the chamber, or more damage output. And Bad Juju is the most worthless weapon I have in my inventory.

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                            • Those People who are saying that Thorn DONT need ab buff: plz stfu!!! Thorn is a exotic which is weaker than 90% of the legendary Hand cannons!!! Sense?!?

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                            • I think its because Bungie is still trying to figure out how to make if, then codes for pve pvp balancing. Lord help us once the mythoclast gets buffed for pve and people cry once more.

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