originally posted in:Thorny Guardians
1) Whaaa you will make it take too long for me.. I dont like that... so dont play!!!!!
2) I cannot tell you to do what I want you to do and you listen and respond that you heard me and will do so...Whaaa!!!!
3) You wont speak with me or at least listen and do was I say.. Whaaa!!!!
4) I am the bosss not you.. stop doing your thing and only do it my way!!!! Whaaa!!!!
5) Whaaaa!! YOU left before done.. now me and my elite team are down and screwed becasue of you!!! Whaaa!!!!!
6) Whaaa!! YOU are not playing how you I want you too. Only do it how I say so!!!!
7) Treat noobs like noobs for that is all they are!!!!
8) If you cant make the full game then don't play.. I don't want you wasting my time!!!! Whaaa!!!!!
Summary: I only want players on my fire team that will play how I want them to and listen to me and let me direct and control them....
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Ya you're right. Having people that are the right level and know how to communicate and work as a team are just annoying. It is so much better when a bunch of silent, inexperienced, selfish players are on your raid.
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Ya dont need communication to do the raid. It only helps in completing it faster for those that are so worried about any time wasted.. when they were playing a game in the first place usually to waste time.. so go figure...
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I accidentaly liked this. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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You have missed the point by so much. Furthermore, this response sounds like you just want someone to play the way you want.
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No, it means that no-one should have to play the raid just how someone else wants them too. Each person is allowed to play it how they want to get the full experience and not be told what to do.
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Edited by Randy Shibai: 10/26/2014 6:15:36 PMReally? So if that 26 hunter just wants to ignore Oracle's or just sit in Fanatic ooze they should cause they want to? I played with a 27 warlock that heard that you push Templar by bringing down the templar shield so he's damaged by the push grenades. Am I not allowed to tell him he's wrong, that that's not how you do it? I agree that if someone wants to say beat atheon the real way versus pushing that that opportunity should be afforded to them. But when they're blatantly wrong and causing wipes because they choose to do something their way then they need to be told. This is the point of OPs post.
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The point of the OP's post was in controlling other players in how they played. Trying to direct them instead of letting them learn and figure it out. It was about trying to get players to play how the OP wants so the raid is done in the shortest amount of time. When not everyone that will do the raid will want to rush it or complete it as fast as possible. Everyone that thinks you need to lead people around by the hand actually ruin for those players if it is their first time. You are not helping them you are only conditioning them to play it one way only.
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Like I said, you...have...missed...the...point.
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LIke I said, No i did not. The op's post was just a rant about players not playing how he/she wanted them too. Thinking they have the right to try and tell others how to play when they don't and never did. It was not about being helpful at all.
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Raid does go better with one person leading them. Just saying.
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They go faster, which does not mean better. Any group can do it even one with out a leader or one where no-one communicates at all.
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[quote]Raid does go better with one person leading them. Just saying.[/quote] Yup, 100% correct.
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not always ,if the leader is an idiot and doesn't know (or care) what the team members strengths and weaknesses are ,then it all goes to hell in a hand basket ,my last raid we finished in an hour and a half(roughly) with no leader because everyone knew where they would be best utilized before each fight and we communicated .