I'm not the best in PvP by any means but I can tell you that I've killed plenty of people that use this gun against me in 1v1 shootouts. There is a thing called STRAFING that really comes in handy. When I DO get killed and see this was the weapon they used I can almost always say that it was because of something I did/didn't do. Lastly, if you're playing a team game your team should be working together and putting shots on the same guys if possible. People's complaining and whining is way more annoying that being killed a few times with this gun.