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Edited by Sigma:
10/23/2014 4:19:30 PM
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My fellow Titans:
Let me set the scene for you;
You're just wondering around, capturing some points in control, when you decide that popping your Ward of Dawn is a good idea.
Good?
Great.
Now you have a viable way to defend the objective for a short period of time until it goes away.
..and by 'goes away' I mean that some cocky Hunter or a snotty Warlock has come along, used their respective Super Charge and now, 3 seconds after you popped it up to relax under with a spot of Titan Tea, you are sat naked, alone, and wondering where your dead teammates are.
Can any of my brothers relate?
Can anyone offer a suitable explination as to why [i]our[/i] super is the weakest? When it is currently the only subclass that really promotes strategy.
Rise with me, fellow Titans!
Take back the Dawn!
Fight for a buff!
[spoiler]..or don't, I'm not your mother.[/spoiler]
Edit: This thread was made with a fun little theme to it to try and avoid all the usually negativity on these forums, so thanks for everyone for keeping it civil.
Edit 2: I have the saint-14 helm, and usually do very well within my precious bubble. It just makes me a sad little Titan when the super gets taken down by another super.
Edit 3: Im not saying that it shouldn't be taken down when a super is used against it. What I am saying is that it shouldn't kill everything inside. The warlock and hunter supers currently just fly through it as if it wasn't there.
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It annoys me when my Ward is destroyed by an enemy super, but I don't necessarily think it's unbalanced. When a bladedancer comes in, I'd say they have about even odds of killing me before I kill them. Have killed many bladedancers this way. Fist of Havoc is pretty devastating, and I've crushed many shields this way as a Striker, but as a defender I've also killed many charging Titans either as they're running at me by popping out with The Devil You Know, or as they enter the shield with a shotty. When I don't think I can kill them I will sometimes back out of the shield, let them super, then finish them easily before they're combat ready again. The worst, for me, has been Nova Bomb - but even then you can kill the Warlock before he gets it off, or back out of your shield and finish him. And if you're making Strikers, Bladedancers, and Voidwalkers waste their supers to kill 1 person, you're possibly helping the team. It's also balanced by the fact that WoD seems to charge MUCH quicker than the others. There have been games where I've locked B down for minutes on end with 5+ consecutive Wards. So more often than not when I have a shield out it does not get countered by an opposing super. What I find worse as a defender is when all my team mates stack up in the WoD. Not only does it virtually guarantee that you're going to get Fisted or Bombed, but it also screws you over in the sense that you've used a super and everyone else is benefiting more from it than you are.
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I agree with this, but I think the problem then comes in, that if you made it so it did not kill you. Then you would have to make it so fist of havoc / nova bomb can't kill blade dancer etc, just a balancing issue I guess. But I'd take any little help my shield can have.
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Hmm. I like Titan Ultra Tea Mix better.
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It is pretty stupid how it gets countered by everything.
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1 ReplyI'm a Titan, fairly exclusively, and play Defender mostly. I think the WoD is in a very tough spot. When choosing to play as Defender, with PvP in mind, you are taking a very niche, but useful, role on. Bungie could easily find that by tweaking the WoD to be a tad more offensive oriented, you will make all other classes obsolete. I like where the WoD is currently. Fantastic in PvE, and very useful, but not OP, in PvP.
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1 ReplyRespect the bubble!! And if they don't show them why titans rule inside the bubble.
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exactly i have bin wondering you other super beat my super, I'm with you
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well it takes 2 golden gun shot to destroy meaning if multiple people are in it i can only ill one (two with exotic helmet, or more if i have the explode after kill perk)
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1 ReplyIf they don't buff titan's soon I'm probably not going to hang on this game much longer. No buffs like the "auto rifle nerf" either. A serious buff. So that I see just as many titans as warlocks and hunters on the the destiny tracker leaderboards.
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5 RepliesWhat I hate is how the hunter AND warlock have the same little teleport move, seriously? Its BS. The titan fits my rambo, survivor playstyle I just hate how the 2 other classes have such amazing perks and their 1 hit kill gernades. The titan lacks verity of perks their all mostly the same or useless.
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The bubble should take 3 supers to destroy
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1 ReplyVirgin
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3 RepliesIn complete disregard to my last post can anyone confirm if FoH breaks the ward of dawn? I landed in the middle of a WoD and the shield disappeared, I don't know if the timer ran out or not (I didn't kill the guy, he stepped out)
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I agree with that, simply because it is a defense based super I feel like it should withstand the offense based supers.
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That's why I use striker Shoulder-charge = hunter killer (lol call of duty)
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Edited by Dabsta: 10/24/2014 5:13:29 PMWell really...it's said that (besides a shotgun to the face) the best way to counter a super is with another super. And...I've popped my bubble to save my team from an incoming nova bomb before. So, a warlock should be able to shatter the bubble to get to the titan stealing their base. And it's not like us having our bubbles popped kills us. We just kinda stand there. And go "Oh...I guess I have to fight again." I've killed my bubble poppers. And they've killed me. I think the Ward of Dawn is fine as is. (And have you had it popped in PVE? I didn't think so.)
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PVP? Oh you mean that game mode heavily stacked against us...
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Our shield at least needs a bug fix because the bottom half of it is broken
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Supers cancel each other out, just just how it is. The only advantage I see there against the Titan is that a hunter uses 2 golden gun shots to take out the ward and then still had a 3rd for you
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1 ReplyI like my titan bubble, but i would also like if the enemies couldn't enter it... i mean like isn't that the whole point of a shield?!?!?
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All I'm going to say is ..... Third subclass .... we will have our day!
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I think fist of havok is the worst special.
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We share the same opinion. I'm not a PVP player, but when I have played, it's kind of upsetting to have that happen.
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3 RepliesHopefully when the new subclasses come out (titans sounded the most bad ass and hunters was the lamest) titans will be played more
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I like my bubble, but dont understand why only our super is the only one that doesnt make you "invulnerable" for a short period of time (like the other supers). But i guess i absorb someones super, or part of it. Just making it so the bubble doesnt pop to other supers, and enemies dont gain the damage resistance that the bubble can give you would help a bit. Being able to shoot out would be nice too, but that may be pushing it. But i dont PvP, so im not going to strongly push for it. Shield works great in PvE, and i dont want Bungie messing with the PvE part of the game. They've already hurt auto rifles, and are threatening to hurt the playability of the raid (random teleports). And its my own subjecture, but this game does not and will not thrive on PvP primarly. PvE is the strong point, and what could carry this game for many years... If done right.
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1 ReplyWhat about the other Titan super? Funny that you didn't mention it...
