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THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM BUNGIE!
Not people sitting on the sniper rocks. That's strategy.
Sharing a Checkpoint on HARD to get a chance at the end game content is the real problem!
Stop listening to the players who will abandon this game in a month when COD comes out. Instead, Listen to the players with over 200 hours logged on this game.
Listen to the players that spent hours beating the VOG on hard and deserved what every the Random drop decided to give them.
Simple and easy fix, you CAN NOT Get any of the Atheon drops as it is now, unless you finish the prior 3 checkpoints. If Atheon is the 1st and only checkpoint they clear... Award them with Shards!
95% of the players who have the "epic raider" achievement haven't even beaten the whole raid.
Bungie listen to the dedicated players! I have sat back and kept my mouth shut but this latest update proves you care only about Casual Gamers. It proves you don't listen to the real problems with your game.
Anyone who's beat the VOG on hard and has gotten the Vex or the Helmets or anything for that matter will agree... People who beat it like this will be the ones crying about this.
The vex didn't need a nerf. The checkpoint exploiting needed fixed.... But it won't matter because you refuse to Listen to us.
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Alright, well consider this: Six guys do the raid on hardmode. Three get shards, one gets boots, one gets the helmet that you've mentioned, and one gets the Vex Mythoclast. All of the guys who got equipment drops are about the same skill level, with their earned equipment completely leveled, and they enter the Crucible. Rumble, actually. Please tell me this: Who has the distinct advantage? One got that helmet you mentioned--that should be easily balanced against the Mythoclast, right? One got those super cool boots; he should be good to go against the Vex, right? No. You know that. That is a clear example of imbalancing, considering they both did the content and were supposedly rewarded. The question is, which of them should have the clear advantage in Crucible? The answer is none. They did PvE content; there is no reason why they should hold such an advantage in PvP. In terms of PvE though, yes, I believe the Mythoclast SHOULD be capable of incredible feats. That is why you did it, not to obliterate other players, by a rather large margin.