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Edited by NEWBIE: 10/18/2014 12:33:22 AM
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DeeJ I am now convinced Bungie is suicidal with this patch!

Edit: Congrats everyone we were successful (at least in part) Please read Bungie's newest announcement here http://www.bungie.net/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update---10172014/en/News/News?aid=12295 DeeJ, I have waited for destiny for a long time and had high hopes, but now you have proven to me that you have no idea what players want. This patch/suicide note, is absolute crap. I was a good little fanboy, I was willing to overlook the flaws in story line, gameplay, crap PvP, and mission design (yay protect dinglebot again while he performs a task that takes the storyline nowhere, I love this one!) I was even willing to overlook the insane bullet absorbing ability of every boss, and the fact that higher difficulty just meant adding oversheilds and even more damage absorbing powers, instead of a need for a new strategy. I was even willing to find 5 other players who had high levels, and enjoy dealing with frustrating glitches (oh look the portal didn't teleport me when I stepped through it again, guess that's a wipe guys, let's start over) and all because I wanted the best weapon in the game, you know a weapon that said "this guy went through days of the gaming equivalent to water boarding to get that, he earned it" so that you could nerf it by a third! Screw you bungie! With great skill comes great reward, or now in this case with great skill comes the same stupid garbage that everyone else can find on the ground from a lvl one enemy! Do you understand nothing about what motivates gamers, and especially MMO gamers? We want that item that wails on people and does more damage than any other, because we earned it! The sense of accomplishment after doing the immposible and then having others recognize what you have achieved. It is the same reason we level in the first place, so that we can go back, find the mobs that killed us before and destroy them utterly, and in record time! (Btw you screwed that up as well, I shouldn't need to shoot a lvl 5 mob 4 times to kill them at level 29, they should explode, and peices of them should rain down on me as if its a blessing from some wrathful God. Also level 5 mobs should cower in fear of me, and hope that I do not turn my gaze upon them lest they are destroyed. What they shouldn't do is jump in my face like they did when I was a level 3) In short bungie, all of your weapons suck and need to do more to make us feel powerful in PvE when we reach endgame, they do not need to be nerfed, simply increase the ones you failed on.The enemies beneeth my lvl should act like it, they should act like we had to when we saw a level 25 and were only a lvl 10. (we ran away, fast, or were cut down with barely a wave of their hand, and we could do no damage to them.... at all......even with rockets!) Bungie you have just turned a game that I was willing to forgive almost anything and justify its flaws to anyone....into my next trade in at gamestop. Once upon a time Xbox had a game called chromehounds and it was perfect for a year with a thriving online community, then they listened to the 10 year olds whining about it not being fair that people who worked for 400 hours had better gear than they did and could kill them, so they patched it to make it more fair to the newcommer who had invested no time and earned nothing, and the game died in under a month, please take this lesson to heart. As for myself and my clan, we want to stay and play for years but if you reward our loyalty and hard work (not to mention endless hours of raiding) with nerfing our loot, and ruining our clever strategies on raid we will go where we can get that feeling of accomplishment again, and you can pander to the casual gamers that are going to stop playing your game in 2 months regardless of what you do. Games where you level are meant to give advantages for leveling and games with Raids (MMOs) are supposed to have overpowered rewards for doing insane things on insane levels. Basically you have made the Raid even more difficult and reduced the reward for it, and taken away the aspect I liked most about the raid which was it forced players to be clever, to find ways to beat him that you did not intend (since you clearly intended for every boss to have the same strategy, dump enough ammo to cut the great prymids in half while avoiding getting shot and destroying the adds) let us face the truth, going from level 29 to level 30 is a tiny reward and it means shredding all the gear you bought or found for gear with very similiar stats and a slight defense bonus or worst case you end up with stats like "Increases shotgun ammo" when you hate shotguns and would rather use anything but that, to kill an enemy. If players whine about being killed in PvP too much by the Vex Mythoclast then here is a novel Idea... GO GET A MYTHOCLAST YOU IDIOT! The whole point in beating the overly difficult raid on 30 (soon to be almost immposible) is to improve. This game just turned into a little league soccer game where "everyone is a special little snowflake, and nobody keeps score because no matter what you do we are all equal" So I am done excusing this game and may be done with it completly very soon. If this game had come out without the Bungie name behind it, it would currently have a score of 20/100 instead of 77/100 and you just took away all the incentive to play, by breaking any reason to participate in the ridiculously difficult endgame content. I beat level 30 Raid five times with the help of my very skilled clanmembers and can see no reason at all to beat it a sixth time. My disaspointment is only surpassed by your shame bungie. I hope you learn a lesson and spend more time fixing issues and creating new content (which of course you will then divide up and sell to us in ridiculously small increments) and stop destroying the few parts that already worked. Perhaps even try out a game that includes bosses more complicated than those found in "Contra" (bosses can absorb more damage and deal more damge with each level) and more mission depth than found in pong (defend stupidbot, and activate horde mode are not your only choices bungie, I promise). Right now you have held all of us hostage with the promise of great things in the future but crap in the present. When the Cryptach did that you said you took him to the woodshed, So take this as your trip to the woodshed and learn your lesson, if I wanted to play a game where everyone is equal and has the same gear I will go play call of duty. If you want me to spend years leveling up and "becoming legend" than reward me accordingly! You are Bungie, now act like it. Edit: Some sort of response from Bungie would be greatly appreciated, so DeeJ if you read this drop us a line, I am sure everyone is more interested on what you have to say than they are in what I have said, I for one await your response eagerly, even if you just say "I read this" Thanks. Edit: Day 3: Bungie, DeeJ, Your silence is becoming deafening.....

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  • Amen

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  • Maybe the things Bungie nerfed were making the game too easy.

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    • Waaaaaaah everyone needs to stop bitching about the Mytho. All you guys see is when you read the patch is 34% decrease. Obviously Bungie is smart and did research and balanced it. Jesus Christ it's not like there gonna make it worse than any other exotic it's still gonna be a super good guns it's perks are still amazing duhhrr. Just cause you get your stoopid unfair advantage taken away in PvP your gonna sell the game. Smh. We all know your just waiting for CoD anyway. So good evidence to all you cryasses. You'll have plenty to whine about once that comes out anyway. Same shit different cover and title.

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      • Anyone feels that even with max defense our armor is still squishy like paper?

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      • A buddy told me due to the huge amount of connection problems players are having with Destiny many not even able to play the game at all. Microsoft is aparently refunding people who bought digital. It may only be for a limited time and you get a full refund and buy a used disk copy if you want. At least that way you can return it later if they fail to fix the game. Help spread the word so everyone knows.

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        • Edited by AvA Klinky: 10/14/2014 7:21:43 AM
          I can tell you that I am not normally a gamer. I don't really like gaming that much. The only game I really ever played was black ops an I loved that game! And then I tried destiny... I absolutely love this game and have played it way more than I ever thought I would play a game. I have been trying my damnedest to get high enough level to go do the raid with my clan and now bungie is going to take away the fun of the game. You work as hard as you can (sometimes for mindless hours that make me like a zombie for work the next day) all to get the one gun that isn't even going to be worth the time I have been spending in leveling my gear and character. I hope I haven't wasted my life in playing this game. What makes it fun is doing all the hard stuff to get the best stuff in the game! And now if I can find it anywhere in the game and it's crap when I finally do find it what's the point in playing and working my butt off for the hard stuff anymore. I can go back to duty and have the same amount of fun as this new "patch" will make the game. Hopefully coming from someone who isn't really a gamer and have found a love in gaming because of this game maybe will make a difference if not I've wasted my time an effort for the best stuff (which I don't even have yet but am still trying my damnedest to get) there will be no more point in playing. Duty here I come!!!

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          • I started playing the Sims 3 because Destiny gets boring. Sad that I can have more with a game from 2009.

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          • Good speech, hope it leads somewhere better.

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          • Weapon balance are going to be screwed as long as PvP and PvE are two completely different games, but share weapons. And while Patrol is basically the equivalent of an MMO starter zone, it is also the entire open world content. So due to the lack of content, they wont let us dominate the open world zones. Not that I get killed by anything but overconfidence. Hopefully the DLC will be 25+ content, so we have some challenge in the open world again.

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          • Well said. And I agree. Stop f***ing nerfing and start buffing.

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          • Bump

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          • Could not agree with you more

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          • The truth.

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          • Hi Game fails= win on taxes. cheers

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          • Bungie I beg you pay attention to this player, the views he or she just shared are pretty much universal from all the people I've spoken to that play PvE. I trully don't want this to be the end of destiny, please give me a reason to log back in.

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          • Edited by Psychosniper98: 10/14/2014 6:03:59 AM
            I agree but I think everyone lvl 25 and up should have there own pvp. Would that stop the whining brats out there?

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            • I completely agree. I enjoy an MMO where it's all about grinding everything to get the best gear you can get. I definitely don't like being up against people in PvP who have it but at the same time they earned it so they should be able to use it to their full potential. Nerfing it by a third is just ridiculous.

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              • PvE mythoclaust should never have been touched. PvP, well...it was bullshit. You may have never encountered one, but i did, and it was bullshit

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                • Completely agree with this. +1

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                • I was under the impression that armour and weapons in PvP were evenly balanced so no matter what a level 29 was the same as a level 2 ? Am I wrong about this. Ps I liked your thread and understand the way you feel.

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                • I agree, bungie you have just lost many of your future buyers from this hotfix the point of a mmorpg is to farm and grind to get better gear if you patch one more thing like this you will lose a lot of faithful gamers like me and others

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                  • They don't care about the hard core. They want to appease to the casuals that will drop their game when cod comes out

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                  • Thanks for saying what I've been thinking!

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                  • I kept giving Destiny a chance. They have screwed up so many things, but now their hot fix, and others before that have proven they'd rather nerf everything than fix anything. I mean it's 2014 we've got mountains of data showing that nerfs cause more problems that proper ballancing. It is a short sighted knee jerk reaction. Look at the fallen leaving the rocket yard. They'd rather dismantle their own story rather than fix a fundamental flaw in their game.

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                  • Wow I appreciate your time writing that. Bungie were far too heavy handed and have punished the PvE community. Personally, I don't feel any reason to raid anymore. Even though I had the Vex I wanted to keep playing but I don't enjoy hard earned rewards being taken away. When the next hard mode raid comes. Why bother?

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                    • Once again no consideration to PVE when this patch was made. Instead of just counting the threads made about nerfing weapons and abilities, why don't Bungie read the comments and see how many people disagree? I don't think anyone in PVE was upset about how much the auto rifles or Vex Mythoclast did.

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