originally posted in:Spears of Destiny
Edit: Congrats everyone we were successful (at least in part) Please read Bungie's newest announcement here http://www.bungie.net/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update---10172014/en/News/News?aid=12295
DeeJ,
I have waited for destiny for a long time and had high hopes, but now you have proven to me that you have no idea what players want. This patch/suicide note, is absolute crap. I was a good little fanboy, I was willing to overlook the flaws in story line, gameplay, crap PvP, and mission design (yay protect dinglebot again while he performs a task that takes the storyline nowhere, I love this one!) I was even willing to overlook the insane bullet absorbing ability of every boss, and the fact that higher difficulty just meant adding oversheilds and even more damage absorbing powers, instead of a need for a new strategy. I was even willing to find 5 other players who had high levels, and enjoy dealing with frustrating glitches (oh look the portal didn't teleport me when I stepped through it again, guess that's a wipe guys, let's start over) and all because I wanted the best weapon in the game, you know a weapon that said "this guy went through days of the gaming equivalent to water boarding to get that, he earned it" so that you could nerf it by a third! Screw you bungie!
With great skill comes great reward, or now in this case with great skill comes the same stupid garbage that everyone else can find on the ground from a lvl one enemy! Do you understand nothing about what motivates gamers, and especially MMO gamers? We want that item that wails on people and does more damage than any other, because we earned it! The sense of accomplishment after doing the immposible and then having others recognize what you have achieved. It is the same reason we level in the first place, so that we can go back, find the mobs that killed us before and destroy them utterly, and in record time! (Btw you screwed that up as well, I shouldn't need to shoot a lvl 5 mob 4 times to kill them at level 29, they should explode, and peices of them should rain down on me as if its a blessing from some wrathful God. Also level 5 mobs should cower in fear of me, and hope that I do not turn my gaze upon them lest they are destroyed. What they shouldn't do is jump in my face like they did when I was a level 3) In short bungie, all of your weapons suck and need to do more to make us feel powerful in PvE when we reach endgame, they do not need to be nerfed, simply increase the ones you failed on.The enemies beneeth my lvl should act like it, they should act like we had to when we saw a level 25 and were only a lvl 10. (we ran away, fast, or were cut down with barely a wave of their hand, and we could do no damage to them.... at all......even with rockets!)
Bungie you have just turned a game that I was willing to forgive almost anything and justify its flaws to anyone....into my next trade in at gamestop. Once upon a time Xbox had a game called chromehounds and it was perfect for a year with a thriving online community, then they listened to the 10 year olds whining about it not being fair that people who worked for 400 hours had better gear than they did and could kill them, so they patched it to make it more fair to the newcommer who had invested no time and earned nothing, and the game died in under a month, please take this lesson to heart. As for myself and my clan, we want to stay and play for years but if you reward our loyalty and hard work (not to mention endless hours of raiding) with nerfing our loot, and ruining our clever strategies on raid we will go where we can get that feeling of accomplishment again, and you can pander to the casual gamers that are going to stop playing your game in 2 months regardless of what you do. Games where you level are meant to give advantages for leveling and games with Raids (MMOs) are supposed to have overpowered rewards for doing insane things on insane levels. Basically you have made the Raid even more difficult and reduced the reward for it, and taken away the aspect I liked most about the raid which was it forced players to be clever, to find ways to beat him that you did not intend (since you clearly intended for every boss to have the same strategy, dump enough ammo to cut the great prymids in half while avoiding getting shot and destroying the adds) let us face the truth, going from level 29 to level 30 is a tiny reward and it means shredding all the gear you bought or found for gear with very similiar stats and a slight defense bonus or worst case you end up with stats like "Increases shotgun ammo" when you hate shotguns and would rather use anything but that, to kill an enemy. If players whine about being killed in PvP too much by the Vex Mythoclast then here is a novel Idea... GO GET A MYTHOCLAST YOU IDIOT! The whole point in beating the overly difficult raid on 30 (soon to be almost immposible) is to improve.
This game just turned into a little league soccer game where "everyone is a special little snowflake, and nobody keeps score because no matter what you do we are all equal" So I am done excusing this game and may be done with it completly very soon. If this game had come out without the Bungie name behind it, it would currently have a score of 20/100 instead of 77/100 and you just took away all the incentive to play, by breaking any reason to participate in the ridiculously difficult endgame content. I beat level 30 Raid five times with the help of my very skilled clanmembers and can see no reason at all to beat it a sixth time. My disaspointment is only surpassed by your shame bungie. I hope you learn a lesson and spend more time fixing issues and creating new content (which of course you will then divide up and sell to us in ridiculously small increments) and stop destroying the few parts that already worked. Perhaps even try out a game that includes bosses more complicated than those found in "Contra" (bosses can absorb more damage and deal more damge with each level) and more mission depth than found in pong (defend stupidbot, and activate horde mode are not your only choices bungie, I promise). Right now you have held all of us hostage with the promise of great things in the future but crap in the present. When the Cryptach did that you said you took him to the woodshed, So take this as your trip to the woodshed and learn your lesson, if I wanted to play a game where everyone is equal and has the same gear I will go play call of duty. If you want me to spend years leveling up and "becoming legend" than reward me accordingly! You are Bungie, now act like it.
Edit: Some sort of response from Bungie would be greatly appreciated, so DeeJ if you read this drop us a line, I am sure everyone is more interested on what you have to say than they are in what I have said, I for one await your response eagerly, even if you just say "I read this" Thanks.
Edit: Day 3: Bungie, DeeJ, Your silence is becoming deafening.....
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Do you got a tldr
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U want some cheese with ur whine?
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You're a jackass. All players should have access to everything. We all paid our 60 dollar admission price for it. Now deal with it or move on guy.
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Its bollocks!
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Edited by Salt_AU: 10/14/2014 12:27:53 PMYou're claiming to[i] 'become Legend'[/i] with you[i] 'exploding your enemies with pieces of them raining down around you'.[/i] You also claim that [i]'mobs should cower in fear of you lest you turn your gaze upon them'[/i]. The irony is that with your 3 characters in pve strikes you have a pretty consistent K/D ratio of 10.8, 10.7 and 6.3. The only raining of body parts that you've been witnessing up until this point is your own. How about you actually become Legend by dying less in pve and then concentrate on gazing on stuff and becoming a god or whatever it is you mentioned. I'd suggest less putting Bungie down and more remembering what pve mobs do, where they appear and how not to die to them.
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The vex gun needed a tone down for pvp man..not everyone has time or team to do raids on hard..i feel the pain of those who have vex gun..bungie is doing the right thing...majority rules
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Edited by Sunrie: 10/14/2014 7:03:53 AMI'm in the same boat...I think I'm going to shelve this game until they pull their head out if their -blam!-ing ass
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Edited by Razzupaltuff: 10/14/2014 11:41:04 AMI always thought playing a game should be fun because of the way it plays, not because I would have to work my a$$ off for some extravagant reward. Imo your attitude is a sad and sorry one - so much more as your "reward" hasn't any real value. If you want to work hard for some special reward, why don't you do it irl, where the reward is substantial and really worth it? So I bought Destiny because its promise was to offer tons and hours of good and thrilling gameplay in an expansive, vivid gameworld with a rich story and great variety. Instead I got a generic shooter that apart from its admittedly great shooter mechanics has nothing else to offer than grinding, grinding and more grinding in the hope to eventually get some special game asset; Something you couldn't never be sure of due to RNG. Now this RNG stuff is not for me, and I did not expect it all in Destiny. I had expected to find something like maybe a MMO version of Fallout 3 with a persistent game world. I therefore would never keep playing the raid over and over just for the rather unsure prospect of getting some great loot at the end. I would play it a couple of times until I had fully grasped how to play it efficiently, and then lose interest and go and look for something fresh to stimulate my intellect. For me, Bungie's true fraud lies in not delivering what they had promised a year or so ago - not in nerfing some OP game asset. If I had the power to do so, I would force Bungie and Activion to shut down for good. Their game designers would not get permission to ever create another game (all I would trust to them is to create some useful smart phone or tablet apps). Ofc this is just wishful thinking; I am just using this to illustrate my stance towards these people.
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Saying that "if you don't like dying to the mythoclast then go get one!" Is idiotic. Bungie wants a at least a little bit of something called variety in the game, not everybody using the same weapon because otherwise they're at a disadvantage.
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What a waste of time go play something else I love the game and you people have no idea how hard it is to make a game like this , it will change over time and get even better please be patient
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I'd agree with you on "Terible Nerf" since the Mythoclast is horribly overrated, but then, it's not required to beat the hardest content, since [b]ATHEON CAN BE SHOVED OFF A CLIFF[/b], rendering his entire encounter meaningless, and locks can be traded around via alts, and getting a "Atheon cheese for Mythoclast" run isn't that difficult to get off sites like GameFAQs. The Mythoclast should be nerfed into oblivion. [Because, face it, the majority of those with it, shoved Atheon off the cliff] Then Atheon fixed. And something new and awesome added to Atheon's HM loot table.
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I would say most people complained about the vex being Too strong. so the majority rules. I for one play pvp a lot and have the vex and even I think it's unfair. I'm good without it but I'm literally god with it. It's too strong, in pvp at least.
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Edited by RedmondKhight: 10/14/2014 10:26:43 AMShiny numbers for you VM is dead nerds: Body shots: 1 hit yesterday - 41 dmg 1 hit tomorrow - 27 dmg (-34% from b4) Head shots: 1 precision hit yesterday - 51 1 precision hit tomorrow - 41 (-20% from b4) Guardian base health - 200 I WEEP SO HARD FOR YOU GUYS THAT YOUR BODY SHOTS SUCK NUGS. oh wait head shots still 5 shot never mind the river of bloody tears has dried up. kinda funny when you think about it gun is stable as hell. rapid fire AND it does 41 damage a head shot now..... wait what is that knocking at the door? so many people who used the VM in PVP then posted in forum posts saying "GET SKILL SCRUB!" guess what right back at you..... minus the scrub part good on those who ACTUALLY earned (got lucky) the gun by killing antheon rather then dropping him off a map.
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The Templar is the only thing I really am questioning about this patch. If the area they are describing is not in the "playable" area, then why did they make it so god damn easy to get to?
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TL;DR
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By doing the impossible, what glitchin content like most people who have done the raid in hard....
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Tl;dr
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Sorry, but that is unreadable. Reformat, please?
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I'm not reading all that, but I agree with the title.
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Format much?
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Wall of text?! No thanks.
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+1 million
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Man I can't read that.. but I agree I think.
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Bump, totally agree.