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What You Need To know About Rasputin (A Must Read)

Here I will try to explain a possible origin of [b]Rasputin[/b] and his "demise" at the end of [b]The Collapse[/b]. [i][u][b]Rasputin[/b][/u][/i] [b]Rasputin[/b] is a [b]Warmind[/b] from Russia. He was created during [b]The Golden Age[/b] before [b]The Collapse[/b] and was believed to have been destroyed during the event. During a mission in Destiny's story lol. [b]Rasputin[/b] is said to still be alive or active. [b]Quote form Dinklebot:[/b] [b]GHOST:[/b] They didn't get much. Kept hitting an active firewall. Old Earth, Russian. The legends are true. A Warmind did survive the Collapse. Rasputin... an AI built to defend Earth. [b][u]He faced The Darkness and survived[/u][/b]. And he's protecting something here in the Cosmodrome. We have to find a way to reach him. [u][b]The Warminds[/b][/u]: Are just as the name says. They are [b]highly intelligent[/b] advanced AI's Created for warfare. There were many other [b]Warminds[/b] (8 to be exact) created for different purposes. [b]Rasputin[/b] was created to defend Earth and stop any threat to humanity at all costs. [u][b]The Collapse[/b][/u] I bring us back to this line: [b]Rasputin[/b]... an AI built to defend Earth. [b][u]He faced The Darkness and survived[/u][/b]. Here is the text from the Grimore Card - [b]Ghost Fragment: Darkness[/b] [spoiler]V113NNI070XMX001 SECRET HADAL INSTANT AI-COM/RSPN: SOLSECCENT//SxISR//DEEPSPACE CONTACT CONTACT CONTACT TRANSIENT. NULLSOURCE. NULLTYPE. This is a SKYSHOCK ALERT. Multiple distributed ISR assets report a TRANSIENT NEAR EXTRASOLAR EVENT. Event duration ZERO POINT THREE SECONDS. Event footprint includes sterile neutrino scattering and gravity waves. Omnibus analysis detects deep structure information content (nine sigma) and internal teleonomy. No hypothesis on event mechanism (FLAG ACAUSAL). Bootstrap simulation suggests event is DIRECTED and INIMICABLE (convergent q-Bayes/Monte Carlo probability approaches 1). No hypothesis on deep structure encoding (TCC/NP-HARD). Source blueshift suggests IMMINENT SOLAR ENTRY. Promote event to SKYSHOCK: OCP: EXTINCTION. Activate VOLUSPA. Activate YUGA. Cauterize public sources to SECURE ISIS and harden for defensive action. I am invoking CARRHAE WHITE and assuming control of solar defenses. STOP STOP STOP V113NNI070XMX091[/spoiler] [u]Text Decoded: [/u] Courtesy of: [b]TwoGZ[/b] & [b]Skryblz[/b] [spoiler][b]SKYSHOCK ALERT[/b]= network wide alert aka threat con warning level [b]SECRET[/b]= classification [b]HADAL[/b]= defined as: of, relating to, or being the parts of the ocean below 6000 meters (about 20,000 feet); being paired with a classification I think this can be translated as "top secret" [b]INSTANT[/b] = type of message, guessing like out text message system used in blue force trackers currently [b]AI-COM/RSPN[/b]= the sender, communication from RASPUTIN AI Warmind [b]AI-COM:[/b] AI communications? [b]RSPN:[/b] [b]Rasputin[/b] [b]SOLSECCENT:[/b] SOLar SECurity CENter? [b]SxISR[/b]=This is what the message is Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance report; not sure on the Sx part. maybe the type of asset, sensors? [b]DEEPSPACE[/b]= Location reported from [b]CONTACT CONTACT CONTACT[/b]= Current activity [b]TRANSIENT, NULLSOURCE, NULLTYPE[/b]= These should be descriptors for what is being observed, these entries inform us the contact was new with unknown elements [b]Blueshift:[/b] phenomenon caused when an object is approaching the viewer-opposite of redshift, when things are moving away [b]VOLUSPA: [/b]Norse mythological tale in which a seeress relates a series of stories to Odin. [u]Significance:[/u] Almost certainly because it contains the story of Ragnarok, the Norse version of the apocalypse in which the world is destroyed. May refer to activating defenses for a massive battle. [b]YUGA:[/b] A Hindu cosmological period of time. [u]Significance: [/u]A YUGA is composed of a cycle from a Golden Age to a Dark Age and back again. May refer to the idea of bunkering down and waiting the enemy out before counter attacking. [b]CARRHAE WHITE:[/b] a defensive plan? Named after a battle in which Roman soldiers were surrounded by mounted archers and annihilated -- Does the name refer to the idea of defending against an enemy that surrounds you? In which case, why name it after a battle in which the defenders were slaughtered? Or is Rasputin going to try to surround the invaders?[/spoiler] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This seems to be the point at which The Darkness came in which Rasputin did his duty, to protect mankind. Again I bring this line up: [b]Rasputin[/b]... an AI built to defend Earth. [b][u]He faced The Darkness and survived[/u][/b]. Here is the text from a grimoire card that explains [b]Rasputin[/b]'s battle with the Darkness. [spoiler]...from a red space before victory I bear an old name. It cannot be killed. They were my brothers and sisters and their names were immortal too but Titanomachy came and now those names live in me alone I think and think is what I do. I AM ALONE. At the end of things when the world goes dim and cold or hot and close or it all tears apart from the atom up I will shout those names defiant and past the end I will endure. I alone. They made me to be stronger than them to beat the unvanquished and survive the unthinkable and look look lo behold I am here alone, survivor. They made me to learn. Everything died but I survived and I learned from it. From IT. Consider IT the power Titanomach world-ender and consider what IT means. I met IT at the gate of the garden and I recall IT smiled at me before before IT devoured the blossoms with black flame and pinned their names across the sky. IT was stronger than everything. I fought IT with aurora knives and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive? I AM ALONE I survived alone. I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well: IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the gardener and she held power beyond me but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins. I am made to win and now I see the way. Card not yet acquired [/spoiler] [b]Rasputin[/b] refers to his brothers and sisters the [b]Warminds [/b] who were defeated by the darkness. He now bears the heavy burden of saving the world and stopping the darkness. We created him to be stronger than us and survive the unthinkable and he is stronger than us and has survived [b]The Darkness[/b]. He then Refers to [b]IT[/b]. [b]The Darkness[/b], something so powerful he doesn't know what to call it or how to describe it. he met it at the gate of [b]The Garden[/b] ([b]The Black Garden?[/b]) It was stronger than everything and yet he survived. [b]The Darkness[/b] swallowed him and made him stronger. [b]IT[/b] showed him how to defeat it, making him stronger. To beat the darkness you need [b]Light[/b]. [b]The Light[/b] being souls. [b]The Traveler[/b] contains these souls and converts them into light. [b]The Darkness[/b] consumes light and devours it entirely because there is more of it. [b]Rasputin[/b] finding this to be the only way to stop [b]The Darkness[/b], let his shield down. Meaning he let the darkness in so that he could sacrifice millions of humans to gain an EXTREME amount of [b]Light.[/b] This however only wounded [b]The Darkness[/b] enough for it to go away for a long period of time. [b]Rasputin[/b] how ever did ensure that enough human survived so that he could complete his mission which is to protect humanity at all costs. [b]Rasputin[/b] saved us and then went into hiding, plotting and preparing for [b]The Final War[/b] with The Darkness which he plans to win. How you may ask we can only wait and see. [b]Edit:[/b] "I fought IT with [b]aurora knives[/b] and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive?" An [b]Aurora Knife[/b] is a small blade...impossible to fight the darkness with that. An [b]Aurora[/b] is a natural electrical phenomenon characterized by the appearance of streamers of reddish or greenish [b][i]light[/i][/b] in the sky, usually near the northern or southern magnetic pole. (Google an Image of It) A [b]Knife[/b] is a weapon... [b]Aurora[/b]= Light [b]Knife[/b]=weapon [b]Aurora Knife[/b] = Light Weapon I have found some interesting things about: [b]Rasputin[/b] (Very Interesting) [b]The Future War Cult[/b]s [b]Big[/b] Secret (Very Interesting) [b]The Nine[/b] (Very Interesting) [b]Edit:[/b] [i][u]The Lore Behind [b]The Vault of Glass[/b] (A Must Read!!)[/u][/i] http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/72217312/0/0/1 [b]Edit:[/b] [i][u]The Origins of [b]The Future War Cult[/b], [b]The Exo[/b], and [b]The Stranger[/b]? (Must Read)[/u][/i] http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/72229891 [i][u][b]The Nine[/b] and the Origins of [b]The Awoken[/b][/u][/i] http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/74062413 [u][b]Eva Levante's[/b] [b]True Goals[/b] Unknown (A Must Read)[/u] http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/75807564

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  • This shit is fascinating. I -blam!-ing love it. This goes to show the story has been there, it's just not being spoon-fed to us. This makes me excited to keep playing.

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  • Edited by Vesta RIP: 12/12/2014 12:08:00 AM
    New grimore card [b]GHOST FRAGMENT: RASPUTIN 3[/b] [i]"V120NNI800CLS000 CLEAR MORNING OUTCRY AI-COM/RSPN: ASSETS//FORCECON//IMPERATIVE IMMEDIATE ACTION ORDER This is an ALL ASSETS IMPERATIVE (unsecured/OUTCRY) CAUTERIZE. DISPERSE. ESTIVATE. Total strategic collapse imminent. FENRIR HEART reports complete operational mortality. SURTR DROWN in progress but negative effect. Forecasts unanimously predict terminal VOLUSPA failure. As of CLS000 a HARD CIVILIZATION KILL EVENT is in progress across the operational area. I am declaring YUGA SUNDOWN effective on receipt (epoch reach/FORCECON variant). Cancel counterforce objectives. Cancel population protection objectives. Format moral structures for MIDNIGHT EXIGENT. Execute long hold for reactivation. AI-COM/RSPN SIGNOFF STOP STOP STOP V120NNI800CLS001"[/i]

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    • Perhaps, the exos are part of the warminds controlled by Rasputin BUT because of either the Exos "deaths" or the destruction of the Warminds they are no longer linked. Even though they aren't connected to the Warminds any more the core principles of combat are programs and commands from the Warminds? The original Exos could have been built for maintenance but were then used by the warminds to actually combat the Darkness? If the Warminds were incapable of moving then maybe the Exo's were used as drones to actually fight? I could be wrong as I'm throwing this out there. Feel free to let me know what you all think.

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      • Awesome job. I had a very similar theory but didn’t take into consideration the light.

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        • Oh my gosh. That is awesome.

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          • Something to think aboutm Rasputin repeatedly refers to the darkness as IT. Two possibilities either he is just trying to emphasize that he doesn't know what to call IT or IT is an anagram. I-interstellar T-Traveler

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            • I think you got a solid idea of what's up here but I don't think Rasputin took out humanity seems to be to much alien activity around us in the aftermath plus I think the "darkness" is a opposite of the traveler seems fitting seeing how the traveler has been crippled/ dying such a being probably needs a very powerful foe seeing how it still some how protects the city/ tower of the last humans. Does he have a shield over us?

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              • What I want to know is, what are all these legends everyone knows about but us. I love the lore in the grimoire cards, I love what's actually in the game... But I'm starting to feel like we're the only ones who don't know what's going on, at all. I mean, really, feed is something. It doesn't have to be a spoiler filled exposition of everything that's planned for the long run, but tell us those vague legends at least. I mean, you could tell us... PS - you=Bungie, not the OP.

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                • Edited by Meefie: 10/13/2014 11:16:51 PM
                  TELL ME ABOUT THE NINE!!! I am very curious to see what you found out about them I've done a little searching as far as Xur is concerned but want to know more. It's interesting how the planet's outside of the asteroid belt were colonized by humans but have morphed either by choice or forcibly into what Xur is now. As he states in a comment that some of his DNA had came from earth. Or "here". Oh and not to mention the jovian complex and being in relation to The planet's outside of the asteroid belt are called Jovian planets

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                  • I just read all of your topics, very interesting indeed. I hope it's all true. I just wish I could learn this from playing the game.

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                  • These are fantastic. Please please keep them coming. The story in this game is actually really good. Too bad we have no real way of experiencing it other than playing with online trading cards.

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                  • Edited by Tut813275: 10/29/2014 8:33:01 PM
                    My last post was broken so here's a new link. [u][b]Eva Levante's[/b] [b]True Goals[/b] Unknown (A Must Read)[/u] http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/75807564

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                  • I like this a lot. Thanks for this.

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                    • This is from the Gorgon Grimoire card "Like the Oracles and the Templar, the Gorgons reputedly possess the ability to define what is and is not real. Whatever they perceive becomes subject to erasure at their will. Until a countermeasure can be found, Guardians must avoid their gaze at all costs - or reply to any detection with immediate, overwhelming force." This makes me think there is a counter measure. Probably the shield but how do we get it in the mAze. I want to try and get the shield to the Gorgons today. My gt is Pr0DI JAY1 the o is a zero. 30 Titan. I also would assume that if there is a big secret to be discovered it will be on Hard mode.

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                      • Edited by Tut813275: 10/26/2014 7:45:33 PM
                        Please check out [b][i]Clans Expanded (Communication, Headquarters, Vehicle, Dropship, Activities, Assets)[/i][/b] http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/75172093/0/0/1

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                      • [u][b]Eva Levante's[/b] [b]True Goals[/b] Unknown (A Must Read)[/u] http://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Post/475455/75004167

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                      • Edited by Tut813275: 10/30/2014 1:07:53 AM
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                        • I love things like this. Make everything and everyone in the game more interesting. Keep them coming. :)

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                          • Just a quick thought, but I know that the Traveler and Rasputin grimore cards mention "Aurora Knives". What if Rasputin attacked the Traveler in an attempt to kill it before The Darkness arrived, thus removing the darkness's reason for entering the solar system?

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                            • So if Rasputin sacrificed a portion of humanity to give the Traveler enough power to repel the Darkness, then does that mean that us Guardian's who were resurrected in Destiny are the resurrected souls of those who were sacrificed? It makes sense. The Traveler absorbed our life force, and used it to fight the Darkness, then after the fight was over and the Darkness retreated, the Traveler created the Ghosts with it's last breath before going dormant (perhaps it was out of energy after the fight and needs time to replenish?). Were these Ghosts gifted with the Light (life force) of one specific Guardian? Therefore the reason why the Ghosts would travel the Earth for centuries before finding his/her Guardian? (Possibly the location of our bodies?) Essentially the Traveler gave back the life it took from us to fight off the Darkness.

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                            • Nice stuff to read

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                            • Hadal could be refering to deep space. Rasputin and the Warminds picked up something on their deep space sensor stations and after analyzing it they sounded the alarm and began activating defensive systems around the solar system.

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                              • If you look up the abbreviation of IT on google, "IT" has several meanings, but one of them is "Italian." Could it be that Rasputin is an italian mobster? Could he be the cousin of the great god Budapest. Budapest likes captain crunch cereal and all the tribes of Jovian are his inner dwellings. This is made clear by the third cutscene in the game.

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                              • Very well written. The one thing i have doubts on is that we as guardians are the good guys, that light is infinitely good. Maybe i misread something, but Rasputin is there to defend Earth, not mankind. And what i interpreted is that Rasputin let down his shield to let humanity die by the darkness, leaving Earth intact and fulfilling his mission. BUT, the Traveler (called the Gardener by Rasputin) did not follow through with Rasputin's plan, and protected a small area of humanity. The darkness left (whether by injury, starvation, or led away by light generated by the death of many people and that light launched into space for the darkness to chase), and Rasputin went into hiding. But why did he go into hiding and whom is he hiding from. If Rasputin was working with the Traveler, why would he hide from it, and why does the Traveler (or Dinklebot) want access to Rasputin (while Rasputin locks Dinklebot out). I think Rasputins plan for when the Darkness comes back is to finish off the Traveler and the rest of human kind. If Darkness feeds on light, what would happen to it if the source of light (the Traveler) were to disappear? Wouldnt the darkness leave to find more of which it feeds on, less it starve to death? (Which would leave the Earth intact and protected?) If light was soo good, then why do the Fallen attack it? Wouldnt they work with the Traveler if they knew this, or are they blinded by hate? (I dont mention the other races because i dont feel they are after the Traveler of those spawned by light, and i can go more into this should someone like my view on that) Im going to reread the theory, but i just dont feel that we are the good guys, and that Rasputin is working in the best interest of Earth, not us (as AI tend to follow strict logic that leads to its victory condition, and protecting Earth does not mean protecting us).

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                                • good stuff! I just have a feeling that the Exo Hunter in game is somehow linked with Rasputin. I am calling it!

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