You are trying too hard. Halo 3 had issues but I enjoyed it a lot. Why would I wish I did not buy Halo 3? Obviously it wasn't too bad for me not to play it. Again you are trying too hard. Me enjoying Halo 3 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT HAVING VALID ISSUES. So either come back with something tangible or stop wasting your time. Halo 2 also had issues, doesn't mean I didn't put in over 100k MP kills. It also doesn't mean those issues did not exist. And people having a valid discussion of those issues don't mean that the dev didn't do anything right. What they did right is irrelevant and off-topic to what is being discussed. "Oh hey look Reach has decent net code over Halo 3, so let's not talk about the actual issues people have been bringing up for years that are both in Reach and Destiny and have been made much worst. Or if we do let's mention what they did do right in irrelevant topics just to make randoms online feel good about the time they spent with the game." [url]http://weknowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/jennifer-lawrence-oh-yeah-thumbs-up.gif[/url] Oh hey look a game has a flaw the previous game had...and even though that is not enough for me to totally avoid the game, I'm going to anyway because KeyserSoze thinks that only people can buy a game that they know is 100% flawless even before they have played the game. And before you try to write something yawn inspiring back, I'm being sarcastic and I am not putting words in your mouth. Sad I have to even write that. Attempt to insult, or flat out insult, is semantic twisting. Like I said there was no insult there so your "attempt to insult" assumption is still you being too sensitive if "insult anything" ever popped up into your head when you read that. Again you seem to be trying too hard to argue. Actually yes you did imply you speak for the general consensus. Since the entire post, and a few before it, was about the general consensus and your replay to it was that you and a few of your friends enjoyed it a lot, yea...you kinda did imply that you and your friends make up the general consensus. So either you don't understand what was being said in previous posts, or again you are trying too hard. To wrap up this waste of time convo, and to repeat the point that was trying to be made, you and others (the community that you speak) liking a product is IRRELEVANT to the real and valid issues it has. People complain that they are adding too much randomness to Halo, then Reach introduces bloom on the DMR and takes one aspect of the randomness complaint (in this case with gun battles) to new heights, is a valid issue out of a long list of issues the game has and you enjoying the game should have NOTHING to do with your human brain being able to see that the weapon randomness people have been complaining about for years was made much worst with the DMR. 1 + 1 = 2. I enjoyed Halo 3 but my brain was able to comprehend that the net code was horrible and not only was that my experience, but it was the experience that was one of the most talked about when it came to Halo 3 issues for the 3 years is was the latest Halo game. I can enjoy something and spot its issues, can you? Sorry if my posts tend to come off as harsh but it is hard to sugar coat people whose argument is (or seemingly) based on "but I liked it so I am going to argue in topics that mention one thing others don't like so I feel better, even though what is being said are very real world issues that I don't want to hear about because [insert whatever makes you tick here]".