Wouldn't there just be a bunch of people complaining about iron banner if they were getting owned? The complaining is never going to end is it? Granted their complaints would be inappropriate and all of us would tell them they are complaining for nothing but the nonstop bitching is never going to end with this game or any other game. I bet when I get dragon age I could bitch and whine about something if I wanted to. Like no co-op story mode. I could go on for days about how I should be able to play any games story with my friends any time I want but it's not going to happen this time so I guess I have to deal with it. I like iron banner but essentially there isn't much to it other than me showing off something I have earned that my friends haven't because they don't play pvp.