I'm a little salty right now... I've completed the hard raid something around 8-9 times, 6 of them being for drops. Every time I do the raid, I'm getting the most kills and doing the important jobs, like soloing the mars portal on the part right before atheon etc... yet I still haven't gotten the Vex Mythoclast... I've seen 5 people get the Vex and they all had one thing in common, they got carried the entire raid... First guy who got it died when atheon dropped the detainment and he died first portal phase... 2nd guy same exact scenario and he only joined for the boss fight itself 3rd guy hid nearly the entire raid... so we carried him, least amount of kills in the raid... gets the vex and even had the balls to say XBOX RECORD THAT!!!! Yes it was Valerian or w/e... [url]http://www.bungie.net/en/Legend/1/4611686018435069801/2305843009220038550#context=raid&section=none[/url] 4th guy is part of my clan who did the support roles of relic and just overall lots of assists, not so salty about this one since it was his 2nd or 3rd run on hard... 5th guy joined in late for just the boss kill and portals and got it as well Can't link them all since most of the games don't show the entire stats due to the join in progress? not sure