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10/8/2014 11:04:59 PM
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I'll be addressing this in the Weekly Update.
Preview: Power Matters, but so does skill.
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Again you STILL DONT get it. regular crucible is for anyone under lvl 20. Iron Banner is for anyone over. A lvl 20(let alone anything higher like the lvl 30 you keep mentioning) should destroy them mercilessly. Weak lvl 5 common weapons shouldnt even scratch semi upgraded or fully upgraded armor. Weak lvl 5 commom armor should be chewed like tissue paper in the face of legendary weapons. This Iron Banner as stands isnt like that. We were told it would be as the developers themselves said to "Bring your best armor and gear, you will need them". Ok why do i need them if the starting gun is just as good as my legendary fusion rifle? Lvl 19 and under have regular crucible and Iron Banner again in Bungies words "Isnt a level playing field".
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[quote]Again you STILL DONT get it. regular crucible is for anyone under lvl 20. Iron Banner is for anyone over.[/quote] Is it? Is this some rule I was unaware of? [quote] A lvl 20(let alone anything higher like the lvl 30 you keep mentioning) should destroy them mercilessly. Weak lvl 5 common weapons shouldnt even scratch semi upgraded or fully upgraded armor. Weak lvl 5 commom armor should be chewed like tissue paper in the face of legendary weapons[/quote] You're right, they shouldn't...if it was purely a gear dependent/clvl gamemode...but it isn't.....that's where player skill comes in....I already addressed this: [quote] There has to be some degree of skill coming into effect to offset the lvl differnece, otherwise there would be no point in fighting if players were so far from each other in lvl, since the higher lvl player would always win. If it was just a gear dependent game mode, they would need to have lvl tiers to balance it out, like lvl 1-9, 10-19, etc. [/quote] and Deej hinted on it as well. [quote]Power Matters, but so does skill.[/quote] If you want a game mode where anyone can vs anyone, there needs to be some form of balance. It can't just be based on player gear and lvl. I covered this as well: [quote]How IB is now now, any lvl vs any lvl, skill needs to be the counterweight to balance things out, otherwise how would a lvl 5 ever have a chance against a lvl 25? [/quote] You keep saying a lvl 5 shouldn't have a chance against a lvl 30, and you are right. A lvl 5 shouldn't even be allowed to fight against a lvl 30, but they are allowed to vs each other, so there has to be a balance mechanism in place, otherwise it would be pointless to allow them to fight each other in the first place.
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You obviously dont get it.
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No Horse, you clearly are missing the point.
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Seeing as there shouldn't even be an argument as to a 5 fighting a 30 I'll just leave It at that. Anything else I can somewhat agree on.
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Oh my god Bungie stop f*cking us around and make sh*t legit! Anyway Destiny is a great game just stop with all this sh*t and for all the stuff ups like this, crucible rewards, internet problems with some people etc. you should make the first DLC free of charge due to all these bugs and other stuff.
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I agree they need to do something, but how are they going to make the DLC free and instantly screw over everyone who paid $90 already? That makes no sense. DLC is locked, they got to come up with other stuff to make the community happy.
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Edited by TitanKnight: 10/9/2014 7:41:54 AMWhat are you talking about man? The damn khostlov is dealing the same or almost same amount of damage than an exotic weapon with 300 attack. In what part of gun damage skills are involved? The Iron Banner is a false advertised game mode. If it wasn't for them Titan greaves I would just have skipped it. All this hassle for a leg piece that actually looks like a super soldier rather than a pirates boots.
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why is the iron banner such a short period of time 1 week compared to queen's wrath...you don't even have an event planned or at least told us about after this...here's an idea extent Iron banner for 1 or 2 more weeks, that way you can fix it and we get extended time from when it was broken(letting lvl 1-14's run over lvl 28-30s) that and address the people using lag switches (you can be clearing hitting their bodies but they don't take damage in crucible and iron banner.) Those people need banned asap
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this^^^^^^^^^
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Edited by Display Name: 10/9/2014 6:49:18 AM[quote]I'll be addressing this in the Weekly Update. Preview: Power Matters, but so does skill.[/quote] How disappointing. I enjoy Crucible and Iron Banner was supposed to be pure, badass, unequalized PvP. Sounded like a good time. Instead, it's pretty obvious to everyone that Iron Banner is virtually identical to equalized PvP. What the hell is going on at Bungie guys? Why is this kind of thing rolling out with no one saying, "This is all wrong." Same with the Queen's event. Removing shards from dismantled queen's gear without adding any other rewards was a buzz kill and took the fun right out of the event. You guys need to use better judgment than that. Unless of course you're trying to alienate your playerbase, in which case... job well done. Destiny has the potential to be one of the best games made to date. And in many ways it's living up to some pretty high expectations. This sort of thing needs to stop in order to keep it going strong. If you wanna ruin a great game after release, all you gotta do is use bad judgment. Repeatedly.
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^^^^this guy know what he's saying.
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"I'll be addressing this in the weekly update" oh so we have to wait ANOTHER week for ANYTHING to be done? Notice how he doesn't say anything about actually FIXING it. I'm so done with you Deej you say that you are our voice at Bungie but in reality you just say what the higher ups want you to say. I have tried to be civil and explain what me and others want fixed or changed yet all we get is the same SHIT week after week. Sorry Deej but at this point I just want you and Bungie to -blam!- off you are so useless. Rip Bungie I hardly knew YE.
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[quote] Notice how he doesn't say anything about actually FIXING it. [/quote] That would imply that it's actually broken... Why don't you wait for his response before jumping to conclusions.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say you haven't actually played in Iron Banner...
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It's obviously broken, if it was working there's no way a level 4 would roll over a level 28. From the point of view of the 4 it should look like walking into the HIVE and seeing ??? everywhere and being butt blamed before you can even say "oh blam!"
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Or it's obviously not... Are you 100% sure it's broken? Can you prove it, or are you just basing your assumption based on how you think the IB should work, rather than how it actually is designed to work? I'm not claiming it's broken or not broken - I don't know, so I don't make assumptions.
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I played IB in Destiny Beta and THIS is not the same IB I played in Beta. The IB in Beta actually worked as THIS IB was advertised to work.
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Yup. He's just a puppet for a greedy corporation.
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"Well update this after the iron banner is closed" Is that what you mean?
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A 28 verse a 4 in a mode where leveling is turned off. Skill should be thrown right out the damn window. The only way a 4 should beat a 28 in the iron banner is with there back turned towards them.
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I can put 8 rounds of The Last Word into a person 2 meters away from me and they one shot me with a -blam!-ing shingen e, that doesn't include the fact that I'm level 27 going against a damned level 21
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yup even at 28 a full clip from auto rifle in someones back dont kill em all the time..lol yet a level 4 can shot maybe 10shots and wipe em out. i feel like a terrible pvp player. i knew i was terrible now i feel terrible..
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Go check his recent games. He won't tell you about his ,38 K/D playing with randoms.
