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Edited by Shaper: 10/8/2014 7:31:33 AM
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Iron Banner complete let down?

So excited as I was going from MVP carry from skirmish and Number 1 in most Rumble matches, I took it to the streets with Iron Banner... Whoa, wth happened... How do I get two shoted by an auto rifle? One hit melee, thats a thing? going negative every match? Being level 27 with above average gear I was hoping to fair against even the 28's-29's, but I would understand if a 30 did the above. So heres the question then, for those like myself, who cannot be really good at Iron Banner, what do WE gain from this event? If you say you can still get Iron Banner from grinding matches and hoping to get carried, that's pretty RNG (Random number generated) and on top of that I have university and life to attend to. Thus another question comes into play, those with external duties from destiny, how would WE be able to gain anything from these limited time events? Further on the questions start pointing very crudely at Bungie, or Activision whom ever you wish to blame. The blame of creating a very tedious grinding game just to get ONE piece of gear, or even a skin, shader or anything of the aesthetic kind. Back to Iron Banner, your thoughts, please enlighten me as to the system behind it, do you think its fair that the level difference has a huge impact on your damage and defense? Have you been truly enjoying these matches, as a person from a lower level, lets say 20-27? Does the developing joint operation putting on a good appearance for future games? Side note relating to the last question: As per leak of Destiny's development, I was excited and, yes hopped on the hype train; however, I then played beta, so any excessive hype was cancelled by what beta provided. Iron Banner was way better in the beta than it is now, but that could be because the level cap was WAY easier to achieve than today. Continuing on, ever since actual release of Destiny, my thoughts of this game, this amazing game, slowly depleted into a single question, why am I playing this game? Is it because of how many MMO's that I have come accustom to grinding in that I dont mind a small visit to the game and grind for a while then take a couple days break. Its very possible but with this assumption that boils this game to a mediocre quality game. Keeping in mind that I havent even laid a finger on the story side of things, that is a whole different problem, that some how Bungie seems to think that DLC should cover. My point being, the tedious commitment this game requires in order to receive limited time items from these limited time events is very unfair for those that have other responsibilities. I remember somewhere that part of the dev team saying around the lines that this game would be casual friendly. Thus being able to drop the game, keep up with news, pop in for a reasonable amount of time and feel satisfied about what you earned for the event and then go about your life, undisturbed. Now now indeed this may be a rant of disappointment, but I still wish to hear from everyone about what was said here, what was asked, and what you think. Until Next Time Gamer Friends PSN GameGolem Maybe I'll See You Starside, If I have time

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  • I haven't really noticed the difference with Iron Banner, other than I went in with a more competitive mindset. I've only played 4 games but haven't lost yet, get 1.2 k/d at least each time. Still using the strangers rifle, a rare pulse rifle. But yeah no different from crucible from what I've seen, just people thinking it is, so play slightly differently in my opinion.

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    • Iron Banner is for people with exotic gear dummy. What did u expect

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    • The whole game was a let down.

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      • I feel like they just put iron banner title there and didn't change anything.

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        • DESTINY: COMPLETE LET DOWN. that's all.

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          • There was a time ......... Long ago.......... When people ........... Played video games ......... For Fun ! It was lost long ago ....... Some elders talk of a time when young guardians sat on the edge of there beds playing split screen golden eye. It was called the golden age ..... But then the darkness came ....... But I have faith guardians, the internet warriors, they will fall. I just hope your ghost chose wisely ..... That's right, I get home from work, team up with some mates, and shoot silly looking space dudes in cloaks , and it's fun. Ooooo and what's that, you want to give me things to make my space solder look cool, why thank you .

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              • [url=http://youtu.be/-MjQ2Et9ozA]What level advantages?[/url]

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                • It is a total let down for me.The amount/type of gear you can purchase when you reach rank 3 is dissapointing, and the fact that Iron Banner is pretty much a broken version of Control makes it worst.

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                  • One shot melee has always been around in crucible; shoulder charge, backstab, jump head punches. So if you didn't realize that, pretty sure any PvP crucible credentials you believed you had just got shot to shit by your self admitted ignorance of PvP mechanics.

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                    • You obviously haven't played iron banner because there is no level advantage, I'm a level 29 (30 but I'm leveling up some gear) and I'm really good at pvp ( I have my bad matches) yet other skilled yet lower level players can take me out at no disadvantage. I've been outgunned by a level 6 and just from playing many IB matches I noticed it takes the same time to kill someone in IB as it does crucible, no matter what level. Another lie from Bungie... Why am I not surprised. It's like they want their game to fail.

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                      • Im actually liking Iron Banner alot more than regular crucible, even if I do get wrecked when I use my titan, but my hunter with his thorn destroys people.

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                        • I think IB is fun. No matter what Bungie does to give us a little fresh sauce in the game, people gotta hate.

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                          • pretty much little difference to regular

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                            • I've seen alot of complaints, personally as a defender titan I haven't seen any differences in the gameplay. Hunters are still 1 shutting down people with arc blade and solar rifle supers up, and I'm still steamrolling people same level or higher. I'm 27 and I feel I am doing the same damage to people higher and lower than me. Headshots are where it really counts for Iron Banner but there are ALOT more level 25+ in this bracket at the moment so expect higher skill leveled players Stay back with your team and play defensively, don't YOLO and you'll win your games. If you're serious about levelling up your ranks then get a 3 person fire team, run the map as 3 and control nodes to secure win.

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                              • Edited by Valorien: 10/8/2014 7:08:17 AM
                                Didn't bother reading the entire thing, stopped after "what do WE get" . the answer is simple. Nothing. The Iron Banner is a tournament for the best to attend. Ya its brutal but that's the way it is.

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                                • although it's not much different gameplay mechanics wise, it does seem more competitive

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                                  • Edited by Vehks: 10/8/2014 6:57:11 AM
                                    To me it doesn't feel much different than the regular crucible with ONE exception, every once and a while I will run into a full team of people rocking the suros regime with the vex mythoclast in reserve that also have full raid gear. And well... there is just no touching them. It's a turkey shoot and my team is on the recieveing end.

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                                    • I havent noticed any real diffrences either except for the obvious damage diffrence a lev 10 does to me and survival of what would usually be a one shot shotty kill.

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                                      • "#unfair" Brb. Laughing because funny as -blam!-.

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                                        • I haven't noticed any changes compared to the normal crucible it's pretty annoying .

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                                          • I don't see how you're having this problem. I'm also a27 and I've had a blue hand cannon, yet I've done very well. I haven't gone negative (knock on wood) out of maybe 9 games so far. It's really no different than crucible. Basically, positioning is everything, and so is timing. Yeah, titans can probably one shot you, but don't expect (as a hunter, which I am) to go toe to toe unless you get him partially below health. Simply put, I love it so far (Iron Banner) because it definitely shows the skill in each player, especially those without maxed gear

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                                            • I do agree that Beta Iron Banner was easier, it feels like they've turned IB into Hardcore Crucible. I've yet to see my armour make any difference between Crucible and IB. I'm not good at pvp but I used to wreck in the Beta IB. Maybe it's just a balancing thing Bungie is trying. By the time the next Iron Banner rolls round all the nerfs and buffs will have been done

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                                              • I personally didn't really feel much of a difference. I did a little better when I went back to normal Crucible, but I only did better there because all of the HC players were in the Iron Banner. I saw the whole spectrum of levels and killed as well as got killed by all of them. There are probably videos and info being uploaded/written right now that are breaking it down to prove whats really going on. I have already seen a video of a player using 2 different characters each different levels using the same gun and the damage stats didnt change. Nor did it appear that it took any less or more shots to kill with it.

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                                                • More glitches in iron banner. Particularly lag and audio.

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                                                  • Reading through the responses so far I would like to thank everyone especially on how short it took to respond, I am grateful. From the feedback: There maybe no difference at all from regular control and iron banner -> http://youtu.be/-MjQ2Et9ozA Lets say there is a difference Then the actual next step is to upgrade and gear up to do this I would like to form a group from this thread if people would prefer A group that came from these responses and understand the concept around this "issue" that I seem to have and party up together and hit the hard challenges such as VoG, nightfall, highest difficulty for weeklys and dailys Anyone in favor?

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