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10/6/2014 4:21:13 PM
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oh boy. are you really that dense, or just trolling?
Me sitting is not commanding anyone to adhere to my play style, it is a solution to a problem, without me removing myself from what is my right to do as a paying customer. it is your right as a paying customer, to in fact, clear the instance as fast as you want. but, in doing so you are requiring me to fight through all the enemies that you left behind, and are in fact hurting my chances of clearing said content and hurting my chances at the loot that was giving to me by accepting to enter this content. as you could kill the boss(yea right) and FORCE me out via timer. Me sitting has no effect on you, if your soul purpose was to advance by your self and go all king kong on the boss.
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It raises the difficulty of the enimies and you get credit for not participating. Thats worse than wanting to get done fast and skip the guys who have limited value. And you skirted the fact that sitting and running are polar opposites, therefore ideologically identical from a gameplay point of view
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I am not arguing the fact you get rewarded for not participating. do I think that is wrong? yes I do. how can you possibly state what value said mobs have? there could very well be 5 purples waiting within those "limited" value mobs, that you made me forfeit because you did not understand co-op mechanics.I cannot fathom how you could justify, pretty much "robbing" people of the ability to earn drops within a instance, just because you say they are "limited value". you totally avoided everything I wrote and added further bulk to a simplistic answer.
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There are different modes of the game <lanes> for different purposes patrol is for mobs. If I have an hour to finish my weekly marks, im running because that is my goal and it doesnt have to hinder yours. Sitting is the worst for everyone, you even rob yourself of the playtime. Go back to the cave of wonders and shoot at a hole for 10 hours
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and now you pretty much just killed your argument. patrol is a free roam mode, meant for just that. that does not mean all who enter a instance must quit and go patrol, just because they want to do what was intended in the first place and kill enemies. there may be different lanes, but the end goal of the game is the same, kill shit, and you are doing the exact opposite of that, when you barrel through content. You just re-worded what the first tool bag said. could have saved yourself a bunch of time by simple replying with "I agree".
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How does elaborating the point kill it? Sitting is worse because it robs everyone of the experience
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the same could be said about you robbing my drops. you tip toe around my examples and place your own over top of them. you have yet to rebuttal my existing claim.
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I said there are places to go and peoole to join if you want drops. If you are unlucky enough to be placed with 2 runners, they should have the option to vote you out for any reason <especially sitting> sitting and mooching off the system while otgers work is why communism failed
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"I said there are places to go and peoole to join if you want drops. " again with the rewording what another said. you are forcing me to do something that I do not want to do, by telling me to go somewhere else. how many different ways do I have to say the same thing to you?
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Maybe things are being re worded to you so much by multiple people because you are missing the point based on a misplaced ideal?
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not playing how a majority want to play the game is a misplaced ideal? no. contrary to belief, majority does not rule. and we all know what happens when the majority think they know what's best for us all.
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No I am saying play with people who share your veiw instead of trying to punish people for enjoying theirs. Keep pkaying strike, just find other nonpvp pkaying ootaku such as yourself
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I don't pug often, as I have a clan to run with. I do not set out to "punish" people, but I will not be made to feel insecure because I want to play a certain way. I think that is the real problem here, people want to set the standards to their liking and get huffy when others don't want to "go with the flow" and do as they do. if it comes down to people reporting me for not rushing through content, then I will oblige them and do the same for rushing me through things. you have your views and I have mine, I guess middle ground will either be met, or this community will crumble upon itself.
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Ok we are getting somewhere. Its for this very reason that a vote to kick should be there.
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while I disagree with the vote to kick(which could be severely abused). I will agree that we need some type of rule in place or matchmaking option, so we can find people who are looking for the same experiences that we are.
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Improved match making could help, but it sounds more cumbersome and time wasting than a vote. Its hard to abuse something like that, and with such a huge player base, I wouldn't worry about it, but I guess thats where we cant agree
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I bet when you drive, you will be the type to cruise the passing lane, brake checking anyone who wants to pass you
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back to the insults because I am whooping your ass logically huh? take your shots, don't phase me. (and tbh, no, I am the one usually passing everyone else.) I bet your parents must have a field day with you, you sound like a arrogant little prick.
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And again, an ideological comparison, even if it is a bit of an assumption based on character, is not an insult, unless it hit close enough to bother you. Youve been shamed at every pass here son, learn when youve lost. Sitting is worse. There is no rebuttal to that
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your attempt to coax me into your argument fails. answer mine, then I will attempt to answer yours. sitting is worse, is your opinion and not a fact. I have giving you facts with my argument, you have provided nothing but shoddy opinions at every turn.
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Democracy is an opinion, thats true. If 2 people sat when I ran, I would deal with it or leave, but tge fact remains we should have a choice to vote somone out
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Name a single point you have made. You pick one thing from each reply and use as a launchpad to agure with yourself and prove the point that your 0kaystyle is childish and inhibits tye expirience
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now you want me to re-read all my points back to you? ROFL. you keep disregarding all my claims and foster new ones.
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For the 100th time. Sitting is worse. Core agrument.
