I did report those two guys, but honestely I was also worried about getting banned from Xbox Live, because I was in the same strike group as two bugusers.I didn't push them down because I was frustrated or something like that. I don't consider these "Survive one strike"-bounties as something that's hard to accomplish. I always try to combine those bounties with other bounties and after one or two strikes I got it in most cases. What bugged me most were their actions. I'm not okay with people using bugs or cheats in an online game. I'm also not okay with people who let other people die on purpose. They did the same thing to me too, you know? Everything in this strike immediately focussed on my when they hid in their little corner outside the map. That's just a cheap move, at least in my opinion. But I primary pushed them down so they move back on this map. They got the message and did so by the way. My goal was not to ruin their game, it was to communicate to them that I want them to play fair. There was no voice chat where I could say something like "Guys? Could you please help me?" or "Well.. you should move now, otherwise I will report you". There was only one thing I could do. It's pushing them. I wasn't even sure I could push people before I did.. ;) And I only did it twice. There were two people in one strike mission doing this. Normally I'm not trolling people. I'm one of those guys who sits besides afk'lers and gives them some cover until they return instead of.. just moving on and letting them die. I'm not an asshole. Most times I try to help other players, even if you wont believe me this. I'm a teamplayer, not a troll. And if there would have been a way to communicate to them otherwise, so I could let them know that I'm not okay with what they are doing there.. I would have chosen that option. "Bungie did nerf the cave eventually, and also stated that if you were sitting in the cave to prevent this kind of farming, you were in violation of the EULA because you were preventing other players from playing the way they want to." Yeah, that's Bungie. They are free to ban me, if they like to. If they think pushing two bugusing guys over a cliff is worth a ban.. well.. than they should swing their legendary banhammer on me. I'm sure this will send out the right signals. In this case it would mean bugusing is okay, trying to do something against it is not. This would be great. Oh, and don't worry. I didn't thought you were trying to attack me with your postings. My english is not that good so it sometimes happens that I can't communicate things the way I want to. But I got your point. A lot of other people in here insulted me, but I did not consider you as one of them. I'm okay if people have different opinions than I. It's just been my point that I don't like bugusing and that I don't want to be a part of it. Reporting people for using bugs doesn't prevent getting banned for them as well. Once I jumped to their spot to look what they were up to. Right there I used accidentely their bug as well for a few moments. It took some time before I realized what's going on there. I used my melee twice and went back into the game. After a few moments those two guys also were back in the game and played the rest of this games session without using any bugs. I think people need to know that it's not just Bungie that's against bugusing. Other players are against it as well.. at least the ones who like things like fair play. If Bungie wants to ban me for this one strike mission.. alright.. it's their decision. But in the end they prevented me from playing the game the way I wanted as well. Their behaivor forced me to choose otherwise between "dying all the time without getting revived by my teammates" or "using that bug by myself". That's not okay either.

Now that you have taken the time, explained it in a way that I understand your point of view a lot better, I have to say I appreciate your position on it and tend to agree with you, especially when you think they might be getting you banned for glitching when you personally don't want to glitch or use bugs. I misunderstood your original post and thought that you were talking about pushing people off of a ledge to their death, not pushing people back into a map from a glitch spot.