So, information about cut content have been leaked and users on Neogaf have posted this.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903125
Apperently a persons game glitched and allowed him to see all the content as locked, including the content we're not "allowed" to see yet. Like the DLC missions, Strikes and Raids.
I quote:
[quote]The first DLC will include 4-5 missions, 2 strikes(one on earth, one on Mars), 1 raid(on Moon) and 3 crucible maps.
Second DLC there is less details but I assume again 4-5 missions, 2 strikes, and 1 raid(which takes place in the reef)[/quote]
Where all of this is on disc but have to be unlocked by buying the Season Pass/DLC.
So, there you have your proof. Bungie have cut content from the game and locked it for us to make us buy their Season Pass.
In my opinion that is a very cheap move.
Opinions/Further discussions?
Please bump this thread as much as you can to spread the truth.
Edit:
Further proof that most of the DLC is already on Disc. (From Neogaf)
[quote]Originally Posted by HykCraft
Sorry if this was already posted... but here you go:
Expansion II is only 9.5 MB
https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07[/quote]
Link is working again
Picture of it if it would go down again:
http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png
Edit2:
KICHZY posted a interesting video:
[quote]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBunIaaPsM[/quote]
Edit3:
To the people defending this.
How are you okay with this kind of stuff? Content being on the disc that you [b]bought[/b] but can't use because they will sell it to you [i]again[/i] in the Expansion Pass.
This content should/already is in the game but is locked.
Edit4:
People saying we're jumping to conclusions, that these areas are not even close to being finished and all that.
Thing is.
Since the areas are already there(some with enemies) they could have easily have included them in the game.
These areas were already in as far back as the alpha. Which means they had plenty of time to actually finish it all. (If they aren't already finished and Bungie are just waiting to release the rest of it to the people with the expansion pass)
These missions and areas should/could have been in the final game but were most likely cut to be sold later as DLC.
The areas already in the game proves this by showing us areas that are locked where they probably later only will unlock the missions for those areas. As stated in Edit1 "Expansion II is only 9.5 MB" which most likely is just a "key" to unlock the on disc "DLC".
Looking at the lack of content Destiny have right now it could have used this content on release instead.
Edit5:
Seeing that this thread now have about 380 replies(and still going) where the majority are either upset or angry at Bungie for doing this thing, maybe Bungie should address this in an official blog post and update us on how it actually is.
Is this DLC content on disc which needs a bought "key" aka expansion pass or will this later be released for free like the Iron banner and Queen's Wrath events?
Bungie, take a look at your fanbase/community, more than half of them are disappointed in the way you're doing business with Destiny.
Edit6:
A reddit post going over everything that changed with Destiny over the last year:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the
Same post but on Bungie.net:
http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70822032/0/0
It goes through everything that was in the game before release but later on got taken out for DLC or removed completely.
Edit7:
The Xbox Expansion Pass link is up again:
https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07
9.5MB
I have a picture too:
http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png
Edit8:
lavaman2302 posted a link to the ps store showing us the same explansion.
[quote]Also check this out https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/destiny-expansion-i-the-dark-below/cid=UP0002-BLUS31181_00-DESTINYEXPNPACK1?emcid=ps-ga-872&utm_medium=Paid_Search_{ps}&utm_campaign=Games&utm_source=Google&utm_term=ps-ga-872&utm_content=Brand[/quote]
Pictures of it:
http://i.imgur.com/OrfdFdA.png
http://i.imgur.com/MmbxruY.png
It says 6.9 MB on there. Also a very small download. Most likely a "key".
They promise us "New Story and Cooperative Areas to explore" but we all know those areas aren't actually new lol
Plenty of people have already been in them.
Edit9:
Quote from Neogaf worth reading:
[quote][quote]I highly doubt the devs just cut complete shit out to sell later.[/quote]
And that's probably what they want you to think. You'd be surprised what kind of crap they'd spin. Cutting content out of a game and then randomly blasting it into the market in pieces as DLC is profitable, so they'll do it. It's easy for them.
We have no evidence to suggest they aren't doing this. I'm much more inclined to say this is exactly what they're doing based on what we're seeing.
Thank god I didn't buy into this game. Pulled out last year when i realised what they were saying and what they were showing just didn't match. The $500m gave me a good laugh though. What a waste.
But hats down to Activision, it all worked perfectly. Expect other companies to follow this trend. The future is bright![/quote]
Edit10:
wazzanut wrote a reply worth reading:
[quote]Its like paying to get into Disneyland and then being told you have to pay extra to ride the best rides. People who dont complain about this place less value in money and self respect. I like the idea of releasing content over time to help keep things fresh but theres hardly a main body to this game, it feels like an empty introduction to an empty world. Its like halo leftovers and its starting to smell funny... Repeating missions over and over should be proof enough to the lack of content, its been a while since i felt a little screwed over by a game.[/quote]
Edit11:
Another area have been found, now by Nowise10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtf3NlYhB_U
As you can see it is everything is done in this one as well. All Bungie have to do is release the mission files and that's the DLC for ya.
Note that Nowise10 states that this is the 2015 DLC mission.
I mean, a 2015 DLC that already exist in the game. That is pure cheapness.
Edit12:
So, the area Nowise10 found a way into have been in the game for quite some time.
This is a screenshot from a trailer released on E3 this year in June.
http://i.imgur.com/4zFs3HH.png
Would you look at that?
http://youtu.be/hRRKtkuOeig?t=1m32s
So this area have been in there since atleast E3...
Edit13:
Another finished looking DLC area on disc have been found:
http://teambeyond.net/destiny-dlc-area-uncovered-mars/
http://youtu.be/fY_KKYQG22c
Now a strike in the Black Garden area.
As you can see it is a big area where you can't go because of this big energy wall, but with a sparrow you can go through it and enter the DLC area.
Edit14:
Another DLC area found by Corbman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoPfuphQvw
This is the Traitor's Ketch mission in the 2015 DLC.
Is you can see, everything is working as it should, it just needs enemies.
Edit15:
Once again, a new DLC area found by Corbman.
http://youtu.be/BtFey3eEzfk
This is the area for the raid on the moon.
Confirming that this also is on disc and only needs enemies to be added.
I know no one cares anymore so I will probably stop updating this now. Since, I don't really care anymore myself.
I've given up on Destiny and will move on to better games.
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Bungie cut content? No, activision cut content!
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we don't need prof... we know they did , yet this is how the gaming industry roll , blame EA
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You honestly think they care? They have a lot of money and it's they're game so I'm pretty sure they can do what they want. Plus everyone acts like this is the only game where disc locked content occurred.
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This might sound dumb. But given we've paid for the disk and it's content. Surely we're entitled to everything on the disk?
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Oh well?
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They don't do a very good job of hiding that there's disc locked content when you can go to the add-ons section of console store and see that the dark below is only 9.51mb.... That's just in you're face admitting it.
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Edited by Lilrican: 9/28/2014 11:12:10 PMWow.....didn't a certain company did this with re6 and oh sfvstk...hmmm look how that turned out. I bought the limited but I understand why people are pissed. See I like dlc if dlc is what gta iv eps was because it was a brand new story and ect that was made after the game was released after a year then ok. But this hmmm shady
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Gosh dang it bungie, I trusted you.
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Unfortunately, people will defend these kind of practices to no end. It's a shame how we're so submissive...
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Only on Bungie.net would people justify this.
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I shoulda realized that Bungie was going to be a complete Activision wh0re before I bought this game. Oh well, won't happen again. Congrats Bungie, I will never buy another one of your games or DLC's after this. You done -blam!-ed it up. And Activision? I will never be buying another game published by you. You guys are greedy little shits that are ruining gaming. I knew something was up when I looked at the back of the games box and saw that it required 20 GB after getting to level 27. I didn't think Bungie would stoop this low and suck Activisions c0ck, but I suppose that this isn't even Bungie anymore. Again, congrats on ruining your reputation Bungie. I don't think you will be making very many big budget games after this.
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Edited by Toa Axis: 9/28/2014 9:35:34 PMAnyone remember this from the PS4 reveal? Wonder what happened to that...
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OMG this game will not survive for "10 years" if they sell us content from the base game back to us as DLCs, screw bungie
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I definitely think they cut content in order to make it easier for them to release dlc. Who has a 5 year development cycle and only comes out with this much I'm not saying the games small because there's lots to do but with that much of a development cycle you would expect more.
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Edited by Herbzula: 9/28/2014 10:35:37 PMIt's the same concept that is all over steam on the computer. You pay however much to play a game that is in development. I think they are using the term "early access." So it's like you're paying to play an unfinished game while at the same time paying for content they release. All of this happening while the game is "still in development"
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Definetly not the first company to do this and also wont be the last... Now that i think about it wasnt there a big name game not so long ago that did the same, damm i cant put my finger on it, i want to say cod but thats too obvious.
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What's even funnier is that the jovian complex, king's watch, and bunker ras-2, which are all dlc areas, were accessible via glitch during the alpha. DLC content already finished, in the alpha. Just locked behind a paywall.
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Will level cap be raised aswell?
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Does it matter if the content was locked from the beginning or you had to download it? Either way you still have to pay for it if you want it.
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ITT: Desticles justifying everything.
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Remember Capcom and Street Fighter x Tekken? Remember how damn near everyone shitted on them for disc locked content yet you guys justify Bungie doing it? Top jekle, you people are morons.
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That is the whole premise now. All game companies set up DLC before the game even comes out now, whereas it used to be that DLC was an afterthought to add content to a game. But I suppose I prefer DLC to micro-transactions :/
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Edited by Deleted User: 9/28/2014 10:02:45 PMThis is the gaming industry now. We all caused this, we bought DLC when it was initially extra content and now publishers are taking advantage of our stupidity and gaming becoming mainstream.
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What would you expect from a developer sided with Activision?