So, information about cut content have been leaked and users on Neogaf have posted this.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903125
Apperently a persons game glitched and allowed him to see all the content as locked, including the content we're not "allowed" to see yet. Like the DLC missions, Strikes and Raids.
I quote:
[quote]The first DLC will include 4-5 missions, 2 strikes(one on earth, one on Mars), 1 raid(on Moon) and 3 crucible maps.
Second DLC there is less details but I assume again 4-5 missions, 2 strikes, and 1 raid(which takes place in the reef)[/quote]
Where all of this is on disc but have to be unlocked by buying the Season Pass/DLC.
So, there you have your proof. Bungie have cut content from the game and locked it for us to make us buy their Season Pass.
In my opinion that is a very cheap move.
Opinions/Further discussions?
Please bump this thread as much as you can to spread the truth.
Edit:
Further proof that most of the DLC is already on Disc. (From Neogaf)
[quote]Originally Posted by HykCraft
Sorry if this was already posted... but here you go:
Expansion II is only 9.5 MB
https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07[/quote]
Link is working again
Picture of it if it would go down again:
http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png
Edit2:
KICHZY posted a interesting video:
[quote]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBunIaaPsM[/quote]
Edit3:
To the people defending this.
How are you okay with this kind of stuff? Content being on the disc that you [b]bought[/b] but can't use because they will sell it to you [i]again[/i] in the Expansion Pass.
This content should/already is in the game but is locked.
Edit4:
People saying we're jumping to conclusions, that these areas are not even close to being finished and all that.
Thing is.
Since the areas are already there(some with enemies) they could have easily have included them in the game.
These areas were already in as far back as the alpha. Which means they had plenty of time to actually finish it all. (If they aren't already finished and Bungie are just waiting to release the rest of it to the people with the expansion pass)
These missions and areas should/could have been in the final game but were most likely cut to be sold later as DLC.
The areas already in the game proves this by showing us areas that are locked where they probably later only will unlock the missions for those areas. As stated in Edit1 "Expansion II is only 9.5 MB" which most likely is just a "key" to unlock the on disc "DLC".
Looking at the lack of content Destiny have right now it could have used this content on release instead.
Edit5:
Seeing that this thread now have about 380 replies(and still going) where the majority are either upset or angry at Bungie for doing this thing, maybe Bungie should address this in an official blog post and update us on how it actually is.
Is this DLC content on disc which needs a bought "key" aka expansion pass or will this later be released for free like the Iron banner and Queen's Wrath events?
Bungie, take a look at your fanbase/community, more than half of them are disappointed in the way you're doing business with Destiny.
Edit6:
A reddit post going over everything that changed with Destiny over the last year:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the
Same post but on Bungie.net:
http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70822032/0/0
It goes through everything that was in the game before release but later on got taken out for DLC or removed completely.
Edit7:
The Xbox Expansion Pass link is up again:
https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07
9.5MB
I have a picture too:
http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png
Edit8:
lavaman2302 posted a link to the ps store showing us the same explansion.
[quote]Also check this out https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/destiny-expansion-i-the-dark-below/cid=UP0002-BLUS31181_00-DESTINYEXPNPACK1?emcid=ps-ga-872&utm_medium=Paid_Search_{ps}&utm_campaign=Games&utm_source=Google&utm_term=ps-ga-872&utm_content=Brand[/quote]
Pictures of it:
http://i.imgur.com/OrfdFdA.png
http://i.imgur.com/MmbxruY.png
It says 6.9 MB on there. Also a very small download. Most likely a "key".
They promise us "New Story and Cooperative Areas to explore" but we all know those areas aren't actually new lol
Plenty of people have already been in them.
Edit9:
Quote from Neogaf worth reading:
[quote][quote]I highly doubt the devs just cut complete shit out to sell later.[/quote]
And that's probably what they want you to think. You'd be surprised what kind of crap they'd spin. Cutting content out of a game and then randomly blasting it into the market in pieces as DLC is profitable, so they'll do it. It's easy for them.
We have no evidence to suggest they aren't doing this. I'm much more inclined to say this is exactly what they're doing based on what we're seeing.
Thank god I didn't buy into this game. Pulled out last year when i realised what they were saying and what they were showing just didn't match. The $500m gave me a good laugh though. What a waste.
But hats down to Activision, it all worked perfectly. Expect other companies to follow this trend. The future is bright![/quote]
Edit10:
wazzanut wrote a reply worth reading:
[quote]Its like paying to get into Disneyland and then being told you have to pay extra to ride the best rides. People who dont complain about this place less value in money and self respect. I like the idea of releasing content over time to help keep things fresh but theres hardly a main body to this game, it feels like an empty introduction to an empty world. Its like halo leftovers and its starting to smell funny... Repeating missions over and over should be proof enough to the lack of content, its been a while since i felt a little screwed over by a game.[/quote]
Edit11:
Another area have been found, now by Nowise10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtf3NlYhB_U
As you can see it is everything is done in this one as well. All Bungie have to do is release the mission files and that's the DLC for ya.
Note that Nowise10 states that this is the 2015 DLC mission.
I mean, a 2015 DLC that already exist in the game. That is pure cheapness.
Edit12:
So, the area Nowise10 found a way into have been in the game for quite some time.
This is a screenshot from a trailer released on E3 this year in June.
http://i.imgur.com/4zFs3HH.png
Would you look at that?
http://youtu.be/hRRKtkuOeig?t=1m32s
So this area have been in there since atleast E3...
Edit13:
Another finished looking DLC area on disc have been found:
http://teambeyond.net/destiny-dlc-area-uncovered-mars/
http://youtu.be/fY_KKYQG22c
Now a strike in the Black Garden area.
As you can see it is a big area where you can't go because of this big energy wall, but with a sparrow you can go through it and enter the DLC area.
Edit14:
Another DLC area found by Corbman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoPfuphQvw
This is the Traitor's Ketch mission in the 2015 DLC.
Is you can see, everything is working as it should, it just needs enemies.
Edit15:
Once again, a new DLC area found by Corbman.
http://youtu.be/BtFey3eEzfk
This is the area for the raid on the moon.
Confirming that this also is on disc and only needs enemies to be added.
I know no one cares anymore so I will probably stop updating this now. Since, I don't really care anymore myself.
I've given up on Destiny and will move on to better games.
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I guess this makes sense...I see on the back of the box. HDD Size 20 GB, actual size of content Downloaded...5.6 GB. Get ready guys...I guess we only have about 1/4 of the game open to us.
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If you have a problem with content being held for DLC, go take your wining to Activision, seeing as the publisher is the one who decides DLC and what content is included and wether it will be free or not.
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Borderlands 2 and many more games have done this also its not new.
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No worries Polish your base ball bats break out your pitch forks and grab your mini guns GTA 5 for Next gen is almost here for round 2!
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Destiny used to be a dozen eggs, then something happened and only say half that dozen was released to players on launch. Bungie and Activision decided to keep those other 6 eggs and release later for extra money. This isn't just a normal DLC plan, it's straight up shitting in their customers faces.
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Did anybody stop to think that maybe DLC stands for Disc Locked Content? Still DLC, just not as we're used to. Not saying I support this model; I hate it, I just think they might've pulled a fast one on all of us.
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OK well your not constantly running content from the disc while you play. Its always online. They can drop stuff whenever the want in the mix and voilà it accessible
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When bungie sees this all they are gonna do is turn a blind eye. Unless everyone starts posting this in the threads bungie won't be able to ignore us then
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Woah, y'know what.. Ive been holding back and just trying to side with Bungie, but not anymore.. -blam!- you Bungie and you screwing me and tons of other people out of 70 bucks.
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At this point if it is true which I have no doubt it is I think they need to release it early if it is finished and give it to players at a discount or free who haven't purchased it yet. I have already payed for mine I just hope for the sake of argument that this isn't the case and Bungie has not screwed over it's customer's for the sole purpose of financial gain. It's sad to watch the gaming industry turn into a bunch of cheap used car salesman I turned to my games as release from stress and there fking up my mojo.
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[quote] What people need to understand is that extra content is something that you have to plan… There are people who think that the first day of DLC development is the day after you launched. That’s not the way it works. A lot of it is that you have to prepare and plan and manage your resources and your people and everything to allow for that[/quote] And /end thread I remember my first video game!
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WOW 1. - is that all we get!?!?!? For DLC? 2. Will wait to see if its true, if the dlc does come out with what you said, -blam!- this game, -blam!- activision, -blam!- bungie, will never buy one of there games again 3. They should put out everything theyve worked on for dlc out now FOR FREE, an extra 4-5 missions 2 strikes etc. Won't have a CHANCE of saving this game!!! Try an extra 20missions and 5more strikes, MAYBE that will
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Wow, this is ridiculous. I expected much more from such a renowned game developer. I can't believe they would do this to their player base.
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I can't believe that Bungie would do this. This is absolutely unacceptable to release a game incomplete and expect all of us to pay $40 for cut content that will only provide a glimpse to the story, or will not provide any extra story at all and have the Grimoire Cards act as the extra story for the game. We as consumers should expect a full game with what we paid.
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There are bugger problems with the game right now... No clue why people are complaining with the full game being locked...
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Of course they sold us a game with LOCKED content! I've said that from the beginning when I noticed the game was only like 18 gigs..
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I don't care, I just find this funny as -blam!-, to be honest I really don't care. I'm still having with destiny as it is.
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just look at their E3 footage
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Edited by JasonLeeJames: 9/29/2014 4:41:22 AMMy bad dark beyond not below. Well GTAV:online does it with free updates, new car parts that don't work on existing cars, new weapon models that are useless till they get patched in. It's pre-patching to ensure compatibility. Not some nefarious plot. Multiplayer online games require lots of work to maintain. So cut them slack while they develop. Lots of games come with dlc, it's not easy to just drop in a whole new section without some level of preparing the existing world for the new content. If you could play the mission or the entire game in the beta congrats you proved it. But the beta won't let you launch it will it? Glitch the map in the final build an play the missions.
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LMAO!!! if any of that were true the game's file size would be more than just 20gb.. you get an A for uninformed Asshat though.. that's something to be proud of.
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Proof that your mom is a whore
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Edited by ImpatientGamer0: 9/29/2014 4:25:44 AMIf u can glitch your way into the earth strike locked off area you can fight a cool ultra captain and other fallen and find a dead ghost, did this with some friends yesterday.
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This is exactly what I was afraid of... They pulled a Capcom people...
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How do you know this is actually on the disc... this could have been patched in so that the devs could test the DLC's compatability with the existing world. Do you think the patches are only added material for you? Patches also include things to help the devs make the game better. How do you think they test the new stuff they are projected to put out... of course by patching it in. Did you think that the DLC was really only the 9 mb that you download when you purchase it? Of course not the majority of the DLC is patched into your game, what you pay for is a 9mb unlock.
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Bungie now most hated devs? Quite possibly. What the -blam!- happened Bungie? This is gross.