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Edited by Eirikur: 10/18/2014 1:59:15 PM
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Proof that Bungie cut content

So, information about cut content have been leaked and users on Neogaf have posted this. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903125 Apperently a persons game glitched and allowed him to see all the content as locked, including the content we're not "allowed" to see yet. Like the DLC missions, Strikes and Raids. I quote: [quote]The first DLC will include 4-5 missions, 2 strikes(one on earth, one on Mars), 1 raid(on Moon) and 3 crucible maps. Second DLC there is less details but I assume again 4-5 missions, 2 strikes, and 1 raid(which takes place in the reef)[/quote] Where all of this is on disc but have to be unlocked by buying the Season Pass/DLC. So, there you have your proof. Bungie have cut content from the game and locked it for us to make us buy their Season Pass. In my opinion that is a very cheap move. Opinions/Further discussions? Please bump this thread as much as you can to spread the truth. Edit: Further proof that most of the DLC is already on Disc. (From Neogaf) [quote]Originally Posted by HykCraft Sorry if this was already posted... but here you go: Expansion II is only 9.5 MB https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07[/quote] Link is working again Picture of it if it would go down again: http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png Edit2: KICHZY posted a interesting video: [quote]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBunIaaPsM[/quote] Edit3: To the people defending this. How are you okay with this kind of stuff? Content being on the disc that you [b]bought[/b] but can't use because they will sell it to you [i]again[/i] in the Expansion Pass. This content should/already is in the game but is locked. Edit4: People saying we're jumping to conclusions, that these areas are not even close to being finished and all that. Thing is. Since the areas are already there(some with enemies) they could have easily have included them in the game. These areas were already in as far back as the alpha. Which means they had plenty of time to actually finish it all. (If they aren't already finished and Bungie are just waiting to release the rest of it to the people with the expansion pass) These missions and areas should/could have been in the final game but were most likely cut to be sold later as DLC. The areas already in the game proves this by showing us areas that are locked where they probably later only will unlock the missions for those areas. As stated in Edit1 "Expansion II is only 9.5 MB" which most likely is just a "key" to unlock the on disc "DLC". Looking at the lack of content Destiny have right now it could have used this content on release instead. Edit5: Seeing that this thread now have about 380 replies(and still going) where the majority are either upset or angry at Bungie for doing this thing, maybe Bungie should address this in an official blog post and update us on how it actually is. Is this DLC content on disc which needs a bought "key" aka expansion pass or will this later be released for free like the Iron banner and Queen's Wrath events? Bungie, take a look at your fanbase/community, more than half of them are disappointed in the way you're doing business with Destiny. Edit6: A reddit post going over everything that changed with Destiny over the last year: http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the Same post but on Bungie.net: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70822032/0/0 It goes through everything that was in the game before release but later on got taken out for DLC or removed completely. Edit7: The Xbox Expansion Pass link is up again: https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07 9.5MB I have a picture too: http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png Edit8: lavaman2302 posted a link to the ps store showing us the same explansion. [quote]Also check this out https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/destiny-expansion-i-the-dark-below/cid=UP0002-BLUS31181_00-DESTINYEXPNPACK1?emcid=ps-ga-872&utm_medium=Paid_Search_{ps}&utm_campaign=Games&utm_source=Google&utm_term=ps-ga-872&utm_content=Brand[/quote] Pictures of it: http://i.imgur.com/OrfdFdA.png http://i.imgur.com/MmbxruY.png It says 6.9 MB on there. Also a very small download. Most likely a "key". They promise us "New Story and Cooperative Areas to explore" but we all know those areas aren't actually new lol Plenty of people have already been in them. Edit9: Quote from Neogaf worth reading: [quote][quote]I highly doubt the devs just cut complete shit out to sell later.[/quote] And that's probably what they want you to think. You'd be surprised what kind of crap they'd spin. Cutting content out of a game and then randomly blasting it into the market in pieces as DLC is profitable, so they'll do it. It's easy for them. We have no evidence to suggest they aren't doing this. I'm much more inclined to say this is exactly what they're doing based on what we're seeing. Thank god I didn't buy into this game. Pulled out last year when i realised what they were saying and what they were showing just didn't match. The $500m gave me a good laugh though. What a waste. But hats down to Activision, it all worked perfectly. Expect other companies to follow this trend. The future is bright![/quote] Edit10: wazzanut wrote a reply worth reading: [quote]Its like paying to get into Disneyland and then being told you have to pay extra to ride the best rides. People who dont complain about this place less value in money and self respect. I like the idea of releasing content over time to help keep things fresh but theres hardly a main body to this game, it feels like an empty introduction to an empty world. Its like halo leftovers and its starting to smell funny... Repeating missions over and over should be proof enough to the lack of content, its been a while since i felt a little screwed over by a game.[/quote] Edit11: Another area have been found, now by Nowise10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtf3NlYhB_U As you can see it is everything is done in this one as well. All Bungie have to do is release the mission files and that's the DLC for ya. Note that Nowise10 states that this is the 2015 DLC mission. I mean, a 2015 DLC that already exist in the game. That is pure cheapness. Edit12: So, the area Nowise10 found a way into have been in the game for quite some time. This is a screenshot from a trailer released on E3 this year in June. http://i.imgur.com/4zFs3HH.png Would you look at that? http://youtu.be/hRRKtkuOeig?t=1m32s So this area have been in there since atleast E3... Edit13: Another finished looking DLC area on disc have been found: http://teambeyond.net/destiny-dlc-area-uncovered-mars/ http://youtu.be/fY_KKYQG22c Now a strike in the Black Garden area. As you can see it is a big area where you can't go because of this big energy wall, but with a sparrow you can go through it and enter the DLC area. Edit14: Another DLC area found by Corbman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoPfuphQvw This is the Traitor's Ketch mission in the 2015 DLC. Is you can see, everything is working as it should, it just needs enemies. Edit15: Once again, a new DLC area found by Corbman. http://youtu.be/BtFey3eEzfk This is the area for the raid on the moon. Confirming that this also is on disc and only needs enemies to be added. I know no one cares anymore so I will probably stop updating this now. Since, I don't really care anymore myself. I've given up on Destiny and will move on to better games.

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    You guys looks surprised...

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  • I'm fine with this either way. I already own it and can't wait for release.

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  • Yea i bought the expansions 1&2 and new immediately when the download only took two seconds that I didn't buy any new content but in fact just a "pass" into content already there on the disk but not accessible. In essence paying twice for the same thing. Why can't people understand that this is wrong? And needs to be stopped!

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    • Edited by DesPaws: 9/29/2014 1:21:43 PM
      Sorry, but if you are "expecting other companies to follow this trend", you've missed the boat. It's been happening already, for years. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/on-disc-dlc-an-ugly-truth-says-gears-of-war-designer/1100-6370601/ And not posting this in any way to justify it, just saying it's already happening.

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      • a few have said it already , alot of games do this ...

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        • Bungie+Activision=Rip Off!

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        • Edited by freshlydunbread: 9/29/2014 1:21:31 PM
          I really hopes this escalates into something worthwhile. F**k Activision.

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          • Not saying it isn't on the disk but it also may not be on the disk, these are icons and nothing more. Even if some of the assets are on the disk it's not the same as it all being on the disk. The only time we'll know if it is on the disk is if the patch for the content when we download the DLC is like 128kb or some small number.

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          • I think everyone is coming to the conclusion that the content was cut because the game feels cut down.

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          • Yesteray, i was allmost ready to buy the Destiny 30€ dlc pack. I never bought any dlc before. Now that i now this bullshit (buyed a game not finished and sold in part) i guees i wont buy it ever.

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            the thing is, it's only a demonstration of how terrible the company is IF the content that you paid for is too little. It is MOSTLY NOT too little. I can totally agree with the OP regarding the campaign being locked off, since there are so many unanswered questions, but for the gameplay and content as a whole, there's quite enough to play.

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          • I'm a little disappointed in Bungie at this point. I'm not sure whether to blame Bungie or Activision for this, but all I know is that it's pretty messed up of them to charge us multiple times just to get to play the game that we've waited so patiently for. Hopefully they do something about this.

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            • Come on, what was shown was placeholders. The game content is being worked on and will be available as of the schedule Bungie/Activision already posted. All game companies do this, so what's the big deal. We pay for new content, the 2 DLC's are new content. Now, if it does come out later on that the content was already on the disk at game launch, then we have another discussion, but right now you don't know that. Cheers

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              • I suspected as much. I really had hoped bungie weren't the kind of company that would pull this bullshit.

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                • Looks like we get abused one more time :/

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                • So... Bungie has hit Capcom levels of evil when it comes to video games. Great. GG Bungie,

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                  • Edited by Epicdudenxt2u: 9/29/2014 1:02:33 PM
                    That "cut content" is the dlc. All game makers include the basis for the dlcs on disc so that it isn't a massive install. Some people don't need access to blogs or forums or internet at all. You. Are. One. Of. Them.

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                  • good work on this post. exposing Bungie for what they really are. i still cant beleive it.

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                  • I had read there was content on the disc that was locked till the DLC. I would just like to say what a load of horse shit this is. I own the disc there was no disclaimer saying i don't get to use or play all the content on the disc. Activision is doing everything in there power to completely destroy Bungees name and reputation.

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                  • They could have the content planed which is why they have the ability to leave markers on a map. I tend to not care thoe if i enjoy the game i enjoy the game. I am sure if they had it 100% done it would be here. But there had to of been issue or and underline past they are holding it for dlc

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                  • Edited by Orphans Requiem: 9/29/2014 12:48:48 PM
                    Reason = Longevity. Why is it most gamers are to clueless to understand this concept? If they would have given us EVERYTHING they had planed at launch, some people would have it all beaten in a few weeks, and then get bored and stop playing. DLC gives players future content to look forward to and bring them back into the game, and considering Bungie wants to keep Destiny going for 10 years, I wouldn't be surprised to see a ton of DLC. Destiny is a MMO, like WoW, more content needs to be added to keep people interested, and they charge you because simply put, making the shit is not free, so buy it or don't but I'm tired of seeing everyone cry about every DLC for every game, if it bothers you that much, find a new hobby.

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                    • Fellow GUARDIANS (GAMER's ESPECIALLY) PLEASE UNDERSTAND... ...... ..... Bungie is NOT* in this for the gamer(s), they are in this for making their pockets that much fatter. If you look at Game designers like Naughty Dog, and some of the other's who make games THAT LAST and don't die in their first 2-3 weeks, there is a VAST difference. The fact that Bungie cut content is enough reason for me to FULLY let this "MONEY GROUP" simply die away. If it's one thing that you DON'T do, it's spit in the face of your biggest supporters. Gamer's are the most LOYAL of all consumers in the WORLD. Even if the economy is down and bad, we'll find a way to keep ourselves entertained by way of our games. Let's be real here, it's our escape from a lot of the nonsense that plagues us on a regular. Yet what Bungie has done here is truly unacceptable. As I said before and I'll say it again, I'll NEVER* buy anything with Bungie's or Activision's logo or stamp on it. These people are crooks.

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                    • There's no reason to continue supporting this game unless Bungie is a little more active and transparent with its community. If you're going to make an MMO type of game, people are going to invest a lot of time into it, its only fair that their time be worthwhile. Right now with no meaningful word at all from Bungie I doubt they'll ever address this situation and put a lot of their customers concerns at ease. The work week starts today. I wonder how much this is going to spread through word of mouth. I wonder how many loyal fans of Bungie are going to be let down and turn their back on the hard work they wanted us to enjoy.

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                    • it is a good sales tactic also at least we don't have to wait various hours to download the dlc's :)

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                    • Seriously who cares? They cut this stuff and keep it from release so the virgins of this game dont beat the 40 hours of fun in the first day, then cry for 3 months because theres nothing new. Look at how much time people have played this game, farming, raiding, and farming some more. Id rather it be better spread than get one expansion once a year that will keep my interest for only a few days. Even with what i think its doesnt matter. YOU BOUGHT THE GAME!!!! its your problem if you dont like it you should not have bought them game. Coming to the forums to be a cry hard warrior wont change anything. Go to school get a degree in law, and find a loop hole that can win you in court otherwise shut the -blam!- up respect its not your game you have no power or say in its content, and move on and keep trash like this off the forums.

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                    • Skyrim had all of marrowwind on the disc when it was released. I don't agree with it. But I don't think everything will be released as dlc to buy. I mean they do claim to be a 10 year game.

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