My opinion is to just make it in different level brackets, when you are 10-15 you cannot compete against players 20-25, too many class and gear perks that make it unfair.

Level advantages are disabled a level 5 can drain your health with a auto rifle just as much as a level 22 that being said the level 22 while not taking as much time to kill has more tricks up his or her sleeve see the thing is perks give players more options and variability and those come with levels to an extent. Weapons as of now all do the same dam and everyone has the same def in these pvp modes your armor (amount of health) recovery (health regen time) and agility (sprint speed,duration slide length, and jump height) are all different pvp is pretty balanced IMO I went in the 3v3 matchmaking with some friends and we also went up agaisnt an organized group of 3 and they beat us despite us being higher level and having more stuff gear doesn't affect the game too too much of course legendary weps with little nifty things here and there help but the pure ATT and DEF stats are the same for everyone... Wait until you see iron banner next month LOL

You're stupid man, if you don't like your class or gear go play single player and get better stuff. PvP games where everyone has the same stats suck and get old very quickly. And in real life guns are all different why should they be balanced in this game? Because all the other games are like that?

Wow so basically you know what guns you need to use to win. Dry your eyes and get back out there guardian.

I thought I was at least average on PvP. This isn't too much different than CoD and Battlefield, run and gun, but there's still something off base. The low level (sub 10) players don't have the gear or special powers to compete with the many, many lev 20 types in the Crucible. Need to fix that. At least separate out the high and low ends.

Don't play with crap gear. Play after you get good gear and level class skills properly.

I'm bad at this game = bad game wtf personally I'm a warlock and I use a scout rifle and a shotgun and I have a pretty good kill death ratio about 2 or 3. So whats OP? [spoiler] if you're within 5 feet of a shotgun and you get shot you should f****** die[/spoiler]

So what you're saying is... everything is OP? If it is all OP, isn't everything balanced? I find it funny that the game hasn't even been out for a week and people act as if they are so familiar with the game that they have the right perspective to judge its balance.

AnimalAI gets what im trying to say. and this game is going to turn out more like CoD in the terms of gun usage EXAMPLE: COD MW II the guns of choice was: Intervention sniper rife, Famous Machine gun, and any other small time weapon with EXTREAMLY HIGH DPS also Screw you guys who just shit on my opinion. YOU GUYS ARE THE REASON WHY COD IS BAD and at this rate Destiny will follow suit

PvP was quite balanced back in the Alpha and the Beta days. But they were balanced because everyone was restricted now that you have released the full beast on people flaws and problems are showing i just played 12 diffrent games and got SAHT on by the opposing team it its obvious that you need to look into this. also look into people cheating i just realized one of the trophys for PSN was locked untill today and someone has all of them before the game launched.

You have all the "op" abilities that everyone else has so why are you complaining about it? As for your guns complaint, that can be said about any shooter ever made. There's guns that a are better than others because of stopping power just like in Destiny.

Most of u complaining A) are just not good at FPS shooters online or B) Not use to PvP, Destiny brings a new element to FPSs considering its an MMO meaning u have gear and classes. The crucible is pretty fairly balanced in my opinion. In my experience with WoW which has like 12 different classes and each class has 3 talent trees. Everyone complained about everything being overpowered and as the game constantly was changing different classes had the upperhand at different points. Except destiny has a counter to classes and gear considerings its still an fps so u have to have skill to kill someone aka aim for the head. U can shoot someone in the chest all day long but if their shooting back at ur head u will lose no matter what everytime. The supers are all pretty balanced they have their pros and cons but i already explained that in another post so if u want feel free to go read that. And to whoever said tanks shouldnt be in PvP that its not traditional you are completely wrong In a competitive atmosphere tanks are a great asset to a strategical team. Every class in WoW that had a tanking spec had a PvP tanking spec that worked very well in combat.

No reason reading people complain about PvP. The only who complains are the ones who suck at the game

[quote]its very easy to see that PvP is a strong part of this game. but you have made something that has so many flaws in it that its unbareable for me to even complete PvP games where your equipment = SHIT and the opponets equipment = GOD. to prove this. Titan class has this shield ability its completely overpowered when you KIT it the right way. the shield stops all projectiles going through it. but gives a shielded bonus meaning that when they pop out for that one FUSION RIFLE shot. they can take a missile directily and still live. the shield lasts a while and can even give this bonus to others. YOU CANT WIN AGAINST THIS. Hunter class has this bladed class and its OP. its speed is twice that of normal layouts. you can turn invisable and lunge at twice the distance. Worlocks...IDK yet im seeing mostly OP titans and Hunters. You also need to balance the guns. EX. Scout rifles, sniper rifles (on some maps) pulse rifles, Fusion Rifles (with low charge), plus anything with a LOW RPM is outclassed easily as the people who play PvP only have there stuff set up to own you in such a way that its COMPLETELY unfair. current OP weapons. Shotguns- Kills at Moderate range (proveded wth an INSTANT melee followup attack), Fusion rifles with HIGH charge rates shoot off so quickly that its unavoidable and deal ALOT of damage at long range for something that goes into the Special Slot, LMGs are littlerally SPRAY and MURRDER no need to pray with these Accurate Monsters, Rocket Launchers are HIT or MISS they are suppost to instant kill but i have seen a few bugs where a DIRECT HIT results only in there shields getting killed and not there health the map are well layed out and i like that. but its easy for shotguns to OVERRUN the game and make this game quite unfair to NEW players and anyone trying to go PRO PvP Please consider a patch of some sort to rebalance the game so it cant be such an OP game. something like a PVP ranking thing that change as you play depending on how good or bad you do. and only puts you into game with those close to your skills level and not just your In game LEVEL[/quote] The Titan shield isnt overpowered?! What you just said is not even true. That barrier the Dawn provides is minimum. The Shield of Dawn can also be shattered. Also, I play with that subclass. Know how people die? Cause idiots run inside and get shot. Thats not overpowering, it's strategy for a tank that otherwise has nothing

I think each class having it's own special powers was kinda then idea. This isn't call of duty or Halo, they made that clear when the dropped the project. At first it was frustrating for me but as a a Warlock, I learned to adapt.