Alright. So why can't raids have both? If you want to get a team of friends together to do raids than you can. If you want to just play alone with 5 others you can. What's the big deal? Why is that such a big problem?
I don't have any friends that will be playing Destiny (don't have much friends at all due to social anxiety) I'm not good with socializing or making new friends, so that means I won't be able to do raids at all? That's ridiculous.
For me and many others with this problem doing this would be more stressful than it would be fun. I don't care if I don't have as great of a time, it takes more times to beat it than if I had 5 friends who made strategies and other nonsense together, or if it dilutes the experience. It should be an option. Just because I don't want to go out and find people to do this with, doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to do it at all!
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Matchmaking for raids isn't needed. Think about it and reply to me why I think that.
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Because if you can complete what is supposed to be the most difficult gaming content in the world with 5 strangers, then the quality of this game is very poor.
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You have "social anxiety" but, are putting yourself out there by starting a new topic instead of meekly adding "your thoughts" to one of the hundreds of other posts beating this issue into the ground? Not buying it. There is no MM for raids because Bungie says so. They even admitted in the video that they are taking a huge risk by doing so. They think the game will be better for it. I agree. How cool would it be to see a bunch of posts after the game is out for awhile stating how Destiny helped me make friends and overcome my demons? Life is better with friends. Life is also better when you have learned to overcome fear and limitations. Or just don't raid. There's going to be plenty of other stuff to do. People have played MMO'S for years without ever doing a raid.
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This is why.
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Well, I'll start by saying that you already said the exact reason for not having it: "it dilutes the experience." As someone who has been raiding in MMOs for years, I've seen what adding a matchmaking system can do to people. It encourages carrying, laziness, uncommunicative playstyles, and allows for people who barely put any effort into the game to be nearly on par with people who worked to perfect themselves and their playstyle. I totally get why people want there to be matchmaking, but it seems like people seem to ignore how insanely bad it would be for the game itself. The point of a raid is to be a challenge to organized groups. Adding matchmaking now would require an entire redesign of the raid, and that probably won't happen within a month. Now, there are some things you can do to completely eliminate the need for matchmaking. You could join a clan, add friends for your respective platform, organize groups on the forums, etc. Bungie wants to encourage these types of actions with the raid. It adds a whole new level of depth to the game. I saw that you have social anxiety, and I understand that it would be tough, but you've gotta throw yourself out there if you want to do raids. They're meant to be a social experience just as much as an intense end game challenge. If you happen to be on PS4, I'd be happy to raid with you and whatnot to help make it easier to find groups. Either hit me up with a PM or head over to the clan page my buddy and I just recently started, we'll always be willing to do raids and pvp, especially once we get a few more members to have a few groups going all the time. http://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/164524
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Easy, if MM you and a lot more will come back whining that raids are not beateble in MM so it's useless and ask for raid nerf. To prevent that it's better to just have you whine for just this until you realize you can find a clan in the time you lost postino your whine
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I dont care if their is raid mm I wouldent use it.
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Nobody asked for your thoughts
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You don't have to play every game mode in destiny. I will not be playing any PvP or Raids. I'm ok with that.
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[quote]Alright. So why can't raids have both? If you want to get a team of friends together to do raids than you can. If you want to just play alone with 5 others you can. What's the big deal? Why is that such a big problem? I don't have any friends that will be playing Destiny (don't have much friends at all due to social anxiety) I'm not good with socializing or making new friends, so that means I won't be able to do raids at all? That's ridiculous. For me and many others with this problem doing this would be more stressful than it would be fun. I don't care if I don't have as great of a time, it takes more times to beat it than if I had 5 friends who made strategies and other nonsense together, or if it dilutes the experience. It should be an option. Just because I don't want to go out and find people to do this with, doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to do it at all![/quote] if you are looking for a group of people to play with, myself and my clan are always looking for new recruits and there would be no pressure to actually talk or interact with others. if you want to run with us that's cool if not that's cool to. just an option.
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Just join a clan or a community group. That's what they're there for, and you can find people to raid with.
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I have social anxiety aswell but I'm gonna try and find a clan to complete the raids because none of my friends will get the game.
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If you're an Xbone player, then I'll raid with you. Send me a request! I've got some friends who will play. GT: hammy484
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I agree with wanting matchmaking for raids however I can see why people dont want it. Bungie will be collecting data on the raid, number of people, how they are grouped, whether its the same group and so on. If you introduce matchmaking it will affect theae figures and adjustments to the raid are likely to be made as you'll have more players entering more often and failing more of the time. Some people have suggested having a mm difficulty with lesser rewards a la wow. I am actually opposed to that completely. I say just ignore the mm data in terms of making changes. Thats how ff:arr does it. Once the mm was introduced for raid content there it actually got harder in some parts. Without matchmaking there needs to be more social tools in place to be able to communicate more effectively. Randomly inviting people to a group could be considered harassment, I know I don't want people just randomly inviting me to groups.
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It is MMO like in the raids and communication is key... Knowing who you will be playing with, their play style and such will also be key. Many people playing this game will have no raid experience so they just don't understand this concept...
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They said there will be puzzles and if they add some sort of a random puzzle that requires each person to do a certain part then communication will likely be needed. No one talks to each other in matchmaking. I think their should be no raid matchmaking and instead be more social features.
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Edited by Bade: 7/7/2016 5:00:29 PM
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You have social anxiety problems and are debating a topic in a universe described as, "social, persistent, shared-world,"? Are you sure you are okay to play destiny? I salute you.
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It's not that hard. Just find random people and invite them to your party. Raids aren't for everyone. It is THE endgame content in all MMOs. And a lot of times, a lot of people never even touch them.
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I demand the ability to solo the final raid because I'm just [i]that[/i] good.