[url=http://www.vox.com/2014/4/18/5624310/martin-gilens-testing-theories-of-american-politics-explained]Who really matters in our democracy — the general public, or wealthy elites? That's the topic of a new study by political scientists Martin Gilens of Princeton and Benjamin Page of Northwestern. The study's been getting lots of attention, because the authors conclude, basically, that the US is a corrupt oligarchy where ordinary voters barely matter. Or as they put it, [b]"economic elites and organized interest groups play a substantial part in affecting public policy, but the general public has little or no independent influence."[/b][/url]
Political scientists Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page compiled almost 2000 polls/surveys from the past 20 years that asked for opinions on policy changes, and then separated the respondents by income. They also looked at where 29 major lobbying groups stood on those issues. Finally, the team looked at which of the policy changes actually ended up going through.
There are two major findings with regards to the influence average citizens have. One is that this influence is made almost negligible by economic elites and special interest groups: "average citizens only get what they want if economic elites or interest groups also want it". The other is that there's no actual correlation between how [i]many[/i] average people support a policy change and how likely it is to get passed; on the other hand, the amount of elite and interest group alignment had a huge impact on the adoption of policies.
The main criticisms about the study have centered around its reliance on surveys, as well as how much we should really want the average American to have a say in public policy. For example, people would love to cut the deficit but there aren't many actual programs we're willing to cut.
[url=http://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20materials/Gilens%20and%20Page/Gilens%20and%20Page%202014-Testing%20Theories%203-7-14.pdf]Link to the study.[/url]
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I'm glad someone else has noticed this. Obama can't do anything without Congress taking ten years to make a decision. Sometimes it is for the the better though.
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Edited by Turtelnomed: 4/19/2014 12:29:59 AMSpeak short attention span please.
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The only way to become big in America is to own businesses. Scientists, inventors, innovators, discoverers, doctors - the real people who deserve wealth, are all middle class. The only way to make millions and billions of dollars is to own a business, or get lucky enough to become a famous musician or movie star, which only make up a very tiny fraction of the 1%. Not to say that scientists and doctors deserve millions and billions of dollars, because in order to have super wealth you have to take it from other people, and that creates extreme poverty, which in turn creates insustainability. Still, these people who are furthering technology and discovering cures are more deserving of wealth than those who are good at manipulating money and managing a company.
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It's an issue but one that can be fixed if people actually wake up and hold politicians accountable. But they don't and everything continues the way it is
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Edited by Elrond Hubbard: 4/18/2014 9:28:37 PMinb4 gaara, kinder, ders, Michael, Camnator
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I found a sandwich under my bed and it was mOldy. [spoiler]not because you're late but because this should be evident[/spoiler]
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We all came to that conclusion years ago.
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Are you going to cry?
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Edited by Nul Arc: 4/18/2014 10:54:37 PMI just want to say, before the massive flaming that will happen, I agree with the study and thank you for posting it.
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Sad but true
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The level of inequality in wealth is fairly uniform across the developed world. You should see stats on wealth inequality in Russia -- truly horrendous.