So if deficit and debt are bad, what happens when we're running a balanced budget and all of the sudden we need to pay for natural disaster recovery?

1. Only drink loose leaf tea, because if it's in a tea bag, they have something to hide. 2. Never buy from sellers who use the word "fermented" instead of "oxidized" unless referring to puer tea. 3. Never use large tea pots for brewing oolongs. Yixing pots are preferred. 4. Green teas must be brewed with water no hotter than 175 degrees (79 degrees Celsius) 5. Avoid teas with stems, because...... .......... ..... *realizes topic has nothing to do with tea at all* *backs out of thread slowly* *opens fire alarm door*

I agree with all of the fiscal stances. I disagree with the social. I am a social conservative, however, just because that works for me doesn't mean it works for you. That is the problem with conservative and Liberals alike, neither realize some people just live differently and think differently.

[quote]Taken straight from their party's homepage.[/quote] Taken straight from one website representing a "Tea Party" organization. There are others that do not include social issues in their platform. "Taken straight from their party's homepage" • Constitutionally Limited Government or your personal freedom and your rights • Free Market Economics or economic freedom to grow jobs and your opportunities • Fiscal Responsibility or very simply, a debt free future for you and generations to come - Der

>Deficit spending must end -blam!-ING LEL! Do they have any idea how bad the consequences of immediately cutting spending to that level would be? The economy would be devastated. You have to spend money to make money, this would hack away at the US's GDP. Getting rid of wasteful spending is reasonable though. Also, demanding smaller government is just plain -blam!-ing stupid. How in the hell can you expect a smaller government when more and more things need governing? More people, industries and technologies all require expanding government, though, not necessarily expanding it's power. Demanding a government respect people's rights to privacy and such would be much better. They so vague and don't define anything. It honestly looks like it was written by someone with the intellectual capacity of a gnat, oh wait.

I can't believe people take these idiots seriously

[quote]1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.[/quote] No shit, but that doesn't mean we can't have a[b] less intrusive [/b]immigration policy in a country founded on immigration. [quote] 3. A strong military is essential. [/quote] Or really? What about this? [quote]6. Government must be downsized. 7. The national budget must be balanced.[/quote] They are inherently contradictory terms. You cannot reasonably downsize the government or balance the national budget without some reduction in military spending. [quote] 4. Special interests must be eliminated. [/quote] Irony coming from an organization that has taken over by corporations and super PACs. [quote] 8. Deficit spending must end. 9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal. [/quote] Just because? Austerity was debunked with the outing of that fraudulent paper years ago. There is no basis for this. [quote] 13. Intrusive government must be stopped. [/quote] I agree, but: [quote] 15. Traditional family values are encouraged. [/quote] This is literally a direct contradiction. Demanding that "Intrusive government must be stopped!" while simultaneously going with family values* is hilariously stupid, and can be considered a form of doublethink. Even the language requirement is an unusual addition and waste of government money; but funnily enough when it comes to jingoism or nationalism and government, the Tea Party will kindly throughout their previous "values" in order to continue giving everyone the impression that the "dark ominous cloud of racism"** still lurks behind them. *Anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion, anti-family planning? **Onion 2016. TLDR: The important stuff is contradictory. Doublethink for President 2016! They are just cherry-picking the parts of the government they like, mostly to use against minorities, of course.

Here is the problem, by holding rigid beliefs that contradict each other, it ends up being a completely pointless ideology. Something I see working in R&D all the time. Always want you to make a product cheaper, perform better, and easier to manufacture. Sadly, you get to a point where you can't have all of them. You have to sacrifice one for another. That's why for the few weeks the tea party was given control of the agenda, the government shut down. They cannot agree to anything because it is near impossible to satisfy this list. [quote]2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.[/quote] [quote]6. Government must be downsized.[/quote] Firing the public payroll does what for domestic jobs? [quote]2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.[/quote] [quote]9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.[/quote] Again, do you want American jobs, or a cheaper, more popular foreign made car. [quote]7. The national budget must be balanced.[/quote] [quote]3. A strong military is essential.[/quote] [quote]10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.[/quote] [quote]11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.[/quote] Any one of these is a massive expense, and we already run huge deficits. Can't slash your income, pay more for military, and expect the math to work out. [quote]4. Special interests must be eliminated.[/quote] [quote]5. Gun ownership is sacred.[/quote] Should have combined these to into "Eliminate special interests, except the NRA" [quote]13. Intrusive government must be stopped.[/quote] [quote]14. English as our core language is required.[/quote] [quote]15. Traditional family values are encouraged.[/quote] Intrusive government must be stopped, except when it come to you having sex or speaking. We own your bedroom. Also, classy to leave out any mention of any human rights other than owning guns.

The first thirteen are fantastic, I don't get the last two.

[quote]5. Gun ownership is sacred.[/quote] [i]Then God said, "Let there be guns on the earth." So God created them according to their kind, the submachine guns, machine guns, rifles, shotguns and the handguns. And God saw that it was good. So the evening and the morning were the eighth day. [/i] [spoiler]Seriously though, I understand that gun ownership is a Second Amendment right, but you don't need to worship the things.[/spoiler]

1. I agree to an extent. There's an extent to illegal immigration but some people are running from hellholes. 2. Pro-employment is indispensable. [i]Period.[/i] granted there's a lot of outsourcing especially in technology and agricultural departments. 3. Yes. As much as I detest the armed forces, they are necessary. [i]HOWEVER.[/i] when coupled with #6, it is a dangerous thing to have. 4. It depends on who's special interest are involved. Some of them are actually good things. After all, the world is far from black and white. 5. Only as long as your bullshit beef with other people is kept separate from your ammo box. Personal defense of a citizen is important, however when your "defense" becomes a murder weapon, or even a threat against another citizen, it stops being acceptable. 6. I can't say anything about the US Gov't. It's bullshit now, and I'm sure it'll be bullshit later. 7. No -blam!-ing [i]way[/i] I mean, that isn't an obvious must for [i]every political party.[/i] 8. If deficit spending is absolutely necessary to keep something [i]integral[/i] to the countries independence and stability, it's necessary. As much as we may not like it. Otherwise, yes, it does need to stop. 9. 10. 11. I really have no comment on these. 12. No. Just. [i]No.[/i] I understand that people think that it's the average joe who knows what's best for your precious freedom, but he doesn't. He really -blam!-ing doesn't. There's a reason why we have elected officials as they are now. Even if they're -blam!-ing things up. 13. National security is one thing. The NSA has been around for how long? And how many every day lives have been disrupted? I understand that there are cases where shit is done unjustly. But that's going to happen, no matter what government is doing what. Deal. I don't like it either, being watched at all times? It's scary. But you know what. At least the thousands of people who had talked down toward the Gov't haven't been executed like elsewhere. 14. Bigot. Bullshit. Did you know that the most common language on earth is Mandarin Chinese? Do you think that just because it's the most common language, that everyone needs to speak it or suffer indignities? English isn't any note important than Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, or German. 15. The ones that place women out of work, beat children, stress families and destroy relations with anyone who isn't "perfectly normal"? Right. Well. That's all I have to say.

The Tea Party is a lot like communism: Their ideas and intentions are good in concept however, the people who try to promote them wind up putting twists on them and simply do not have the best intentions. I agree with about 99% of these values but I am still a right-winged Libertarian

[quote]15. Traditional family values are encouraged.[/quote] So we should go back to the time where women couldn't vote, they are the property of the man and they have to stay home? Also lets say a wild bill makes it to the Tea Party congress and even to the president. This bill is for legalizing gay marriage for the whole country. Would they pass it or down vote it? If they down vote it wouldn't that defeat the Government being downsized things because that would mean the Government still has a big presence in your lives for things that it shouldn't?

[quote]A strong military is essential.[/quote] [quote]Government must be downsized.[/quote] What is this I don't even?

[quote]12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.[/quote] Well... I guess this one isn't bad. The rest are idiotic. It sounds like the propaganda spewed in Colombia in Bioshock Infinite.

Does traditional family values mean my wife will stay at home and cook/clean all day? Or are we going back far enough in tradition where I can just buy a black girl to do that instead?

Anyone else see the hypocrisies and general flaws in logic? I'm assuming people are.