lolwat. I know this post is ancient but the thread got bumped and I know you're alive, unlike your poor brother Joseph. So I'll play. (No flame war here) Yeah, pretty much any Jedi or Sith shits on Spartans and Elites, but there's stuff in the Haloverse that shits on them even harder. That's almost like saying Spartans beat Stormtroopers, so Halo wins. (We're getting into the part where I don't know nearly enough about Star Wars for this but whatever). I'm pretty confident that the Jedi and Sith couldn't 'easily overpower' Forerunner and especially, Precursor tech. Precursor shit is advanced as -blam!- yo. "And don't forget about the Death Stars" lolol. The Death Stars can be forgotten about pretty easily I think actually. They kinda sucked. Most of your argument revolved around Star Wars being better than the UNSC and Covenant ex. [quote] Think of Darth Maul for example. He can be pushed well beyond the limits of even an S-II [/quote], which, out of the Ill say 6 main Halo factions (Precursors, Forerunners, Ancient Humans, Flood, UNSC, Covenant) are by far the least advanced and dangerous. So yeah, while MC and the Spartans can't whip everything, that doesn't speak for the rest of the Halo universe being wayyyy more powerful. That being said, you left out a bunch of stuff for your side of the argument which wouldve helped a lot. Don't really think we need to discuss it that much because the rest of the thread handled it.